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Volodymyr Zelensky Transforms Germany -- and Europe
Townhall.com ^ | March 4, 2022 | Michael Barone

Posted on 03/04/2022 8:11:02 AM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 03/04/2022 8:11:02 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
Ukraine's independence is not vital to the United States. While a desirable goal, it is not worth our fighting a war with Russia to preserve.

Ukraine is not, and has never been an independent country. It was a Soviet State, then a Russian-controlled kleptocracy, which switched to a moderately western kleptocracy, switched back to a Russian one, and after 2014, the CIA and Soros put it back as a US controlled client. We chased out the Russian oligarchs, and sent in our own like Hunter Biden and Chris Kerry.

Ukraine is a strategic tool, and is being used as such.

2 posted on 03/04/2022 8:15:34 AM PST by PGR88
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To: Kaslin

It looks like Pat Buchanan’s article ( https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4043602/posts ) got appended to the end of this text as if Michael Barone wrote it.


3 posted on 03/04/2022 8:20:39 AM PST by posterchild
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To: PJ-Comix

You’ve got followers, looks like:

“On Monday, Biden walked across the White House lawn alone and in a mask. On Tuesday, he walked into a crowd of House members rejoicing that no more masks were needed.”


4 posted on 03/04/2022 8:27:39 AM PST by BenLurkin ((The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.))
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To: Kaslin

“This speech is going to be forgotten — if it’s not already forgotten — but the public will still see empty store shelves, high prices and the cost of filling up their cars.”


Last Friday morning, the day after the Russian invasion, I filled up my car at our corner Shell for $3.05. Today, that same station is selling the same grade of gas for $3.58. That’s only up 17.4% in a single week, on top of a 91% increase from Election Day, 2029 (Steal Day?) until last Friday. Every single time I pass a gas station, whether I fill up or not, FJB or just FB comes out of my mouth. I’ll grant that I’m biased against him to begin with, but the degree of just plain and utter phuck-up in his/the Dems’ handling of the entire economy and especially the energy sector (which necessarily impacts ALL other goods) is the stuff of legend. Geez, he’s making Carter look like a so-so President, and that’s saying something. How you folks in CA and other states are dealing with the gas prices, I have no idea - but you have my sincere sympathies.


5 posted on 03/04/2022 8:28:29 AM PST by Ancesthntr (“The right to buy weapons is the right to be free.” ― A.E. Van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: Ancesthntr

Election Day 2020, not 2029. Fat fingers.


6 posted on 03/04/2022 8:29:59 AM PST by Ancesthntr (“The right to buy weapons is the right to be free.” ― A.E. Van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: PGR88

The territory of the Ukraine was part of Russia for over 300 years before 1991.


7 posted on 03/04/2022 8:31:03 AM PST by WMarshal ("No war for communism"What a fan of the swap you are)
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To: Kaslin

If Serbia attacks Austria-Hungary, and Austria-Hungary responds, then Russia will attack Austria-Hungary. But then Germany has to war with Russia, so France and Great Britain stand up for Russia. Oh wait, that was another war, never mind.


8 posted on 03/04/2022 8:33:33 AM PST by packagingguy
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To: Kaslin

Ukraine isn’t worth the risk of a huge war, Barone has always been a master of the obvious.

But he hates blue jeans, so he still needs a whippin’.


9 posted on 03/04/2022 9:00:00 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (The only way to secure your own future is to create it yourself.)
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To: WMarshal

The Ukrainian people sought to be part of Russia after being invaded by the Mongols which eventually resulted in the Treaty of Pereyaslav in 1654. Even before that the Russian and Ukranian people share a common heritage. The Russian Empire considered Ukrainians to be ethnically Russian.


10 posted on 03/04/2022 9:04:14 AM PST by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: fireman15

Ukraine has always worn their Russian association uneasily.
For example

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stenka_Razin


11 posted on 03/04/2022 9:12:08 AM PST by Reily
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Soros, Clinton, Obama, and Klaus Schaub all support Zelenskyy.


12 posted on 03/04/2022 9:15:59 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (The GOP is the UN of US politics)
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To: SaxxonWoods

64k question is where do you stopPitin should he decide to go after the next non-NATO country. Clearly, he wants to rebuild the USSR.


13 posted on 03/04/2022 9:31:03 AM PST by DownInFlames (P)
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To: Reily
Ukraine has always worn their Russian association uneasily.

That is an interesting article. I am not sure if that I would characterize their association this way. The Ukraine has been a part of Russia for hundreds of years. The church that Ukrainians traditionally go to is Russian Orthodox.

But yes, many if not most Ukrainians welcomed the Nazis when they invaded in WWII until the Nazis began showing their true colors. So that would tend to support your characterization.

At this point what the Russians want is regime change. They have gotten away with this repeatedly whenever one of their former satellites countries started pushing things in a way that made them feel threatened.

After Biden muddied the waters by saying over a month ago that we would do basically nothing if Russia invaded, it was a foregone conclusion that Russia would invade.

The current regime is demonstrably one of the most corrupt in the world. Soros has claimed himself that he installed their current “president”. It is not worth the huge number of sacrifices and death that have already occurred to save the group of criminals that make up the current Ukranian regime. And risking billions being killed in a nuclear conflict by continuing to poke Putin and push him around is unthinkable. Putin is rumored not to be a well man, yet he still has the ability to launch an all-out strike from the world's largest nuclear arsenal. Biden, his idiotic advisers and our Soros dominated lefty media are playing with real fire, and they should knock it off. The real goal should be to get things back to a stable situation as quickly as possible.

14 posted on 03/04/2022 9:48:41 AM PST by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: WMarshal

Ukraine was also part of the Polish-Lithuanian Empire for centuries as well... so They could just as easily be claimed by Poland or Lithuania...
The point is, just like Kuwait didn’t belong to Iraq, Ukraine doesn’t belong to Russia.


15 posted on 03/04/2022 9:49:27 AM PST by 4 Libertys sake (Fighting the good fight against enemies, domestic and unrepentant!!!)
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To: 4 Libertys sake

Exactly


16 posted on 03/04/2022 9:53:35 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: DownInFlames

Biden is Neville chamberlain snd the rest of Europe are equally weak so putin can grab as much as he wants looks like.


17 posted on 03/04/2022 9:56:40 AM PST by Newtoidaho (All I ask of living is to have no chains on me.)
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To: 4 Libertys sake
"Ukraine was also part of the Polish-Lithuanian Empire for centuries as well... so They could just as easily be claimed by Poland or Lithuania..."

Poland does have some claim to the Western Ukraine and if they want it they can fight Russia and/or the Ukraine for it. Again - not America's problem when we have a cold civil war here at home.

18 posted on 03/04/2022 9:58:08 AM PST by WMarshal ("No war for communism"What a fan of the swap you are)
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To: PGR88

I wish more people understood this.

Zelensky is a media creation just like Obama. He is another Soros puppet.

People are swallowing the Ukrainian propaganda without thought or question.

Of course, Putin is no angel.

Taking sides in this war is like taking sides in a war between the Chicago Mafia and the New York Mafia, back in the forties and fifties.


19 posted on 03/04/2022 10:26:22 AM PST by miserare ( Respect for life--life of all kinds-- is the first principle of civilization.~~A. Schweitzer.)
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To: fireman15

Well said.


20 posted on 03/04/2022 10:31:54 AM PST by miserare ( Respect for life--life of all kinds-- is the first principle of civilization.~~A. Schweitzer.)
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