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To: Bob434
“doesn't covid itself cause spike proteins? If so, wouldn't the spike from covid coupled with the deleterious effects of covid (ie deep lung issues, organ issues) be worse than spike proteins from vaccines which “apparently” don't cause deep lung issues?”

Yeah it could be but remember “natural” CV-19 enters through the Naso-Pharyngeal (Nose & Mouth) and there are various defense mechanisms as in mucousal layers etc. That gives you time to intervene with medications/treatments of your choice depending how you want to proceed. Hospitalization with ventilation/Remdesivir or Vitamin I.

Originally only about 20% of the population was vulnerable. The Diamond Princess incident proved that. If the spread is enhanced by exposing the most vulnerable ( think Nursing homes) then the process gets more coverage. Panic ensues and people line up for hours for a dangerous Jab that will hose your immune system. Then you are hooked into a process that will eventually damage you beyond repair.

The Jab is introduced directly into your body (IM) injection along with the problems the migrating spikes introduces.

With the Jab the formulation has not changed markedly since they were introduced. The Jab is for the Alpha variant which is gone. Since CV19 is a corona virus it mutates rapidly and each mutation selects to avoid any protection. That's why you never Jab into a active pandemic especially a corona virus, it's suicidal.

The jab turns your immune system into a one trick pony for a variant that isn't there anymore.

Think of it this way. Your immune system is now one inch wide and a mile deep. It needs to be one inch deep and a mile wide.

I used to think that the jab might be useful for the very vulnerable but it was shown CV19 could be managed with out a Jab. Look at the Spanish nursing home incident.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1094553921000018?via%3Dihub.

“I thought it was a lot sooner? Like hardly effective at even 3 months (something like only 20% effective at 3 months)?”

Sounds like you are referencing the Boosters. Look at Israel. They are on their 4th shot with ever decreasing effectiveness.

You are right about naturally acquired immunity. The reason being is because you acquire N-protein (nucleocapside) antibodies. The N-protein is in the virus itself and governs replication it also gives you T-cell and I believe B-cell (long term memory) response.

The Israelis found this out. There are studies now surfacing that imply that the Jab does the same thing but frankly I don't believe them anymore because we have been lied to again and again. You can make your own choice.

“I wonder though how long it lasts (how long the antibodies fromjab make new infections worse?) Does that effect wear off over time?”

That I can't say. I prefer to make myself less vulnerable ie: loose weight, reverse any Type 2 diabetes (its possible),keep D3 levels up etc.

All this is somewhat simplified. There are other factors that influence this whole affair.

24 posted on 02/02/2022 11:07:25 AM PST by Polynikes (Nicht geimpft Mensch 2nd Klasse)
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To: Polynikes

[[Yeah it could be but remember “natural” CV-19 enters through the Naso-Pharyngeal (Nose & Mouth) and there are various defense mechanisms as in mucousal layers etc. That gives you time to intervene with medications/treatments of your choice]]

We use colgate total with cetylpyridinium chloride which neutralizes covid and other viruses completely for a few hours- we use it right before going into a store-

[[The jab turns your immune system into a one trick pony for a variant that isn’t there anymore.]]

Yep that’s why we avoided it

[[I used to think that the jab might be useful for the very vulnerable but it was shown CV19 could be managed with out a Jab.]]

I thought that too- thanks for the link- I’ll check that out for sure-

[[frankly I don’t believe them anymore because we have been lied to again and again.]]

Agreed- the lying is blatant too- studies all over are showing ivermectin helps fight it quite well, yet they lie and say it’s ineffective- I personally think 100’s of 1000’s could have been saved had they had access to ivermectin AND later to conventional drugs currently used to fight covid- there was no reason to ban it- the message should have been “Use it BUT seek medical care as well, as the two can work very well together without issues- If Ivermectin works, great, if it fails to work, oh well, at least it was tried against a deadly virus for some vulnerable folks without any ill effects”


25 posted on 02/02/2022 11:30:21 AM PST by Bob434
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