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Texas refinery blast could help push gas prices above $4 a gallon
MAMBLA then DNC thru CNN ^ | Dec 23,2021 | Chris Isidore

Posted on 12/24/2021 12:41:07 PM PST by NoLibZone

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To: HereInTheHeartland

FWIW, GM Onstar has had that “capability” since 1997.


61 posted on 12/24/2021 4:32:21 PM PST by nascarnation (Let's Go Brandon!)
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To: backwoods-engineer

Gas lines may NOT be a good strategy for the mid term elections next fall.


62 posted on 12/24/2021 4:33:45 PM PST by nascarnation (Let's Go Brandon!)
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To: PAR35

That was my point. Grim but true.


63 posted on 12/24/2021 5:00:55 PM PST by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: NoLibZone

My security system says that link is a very dangerous site.


64 posted on 12/24/2021 5:06:10 PM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: NoLibZone

Best I can find out, the unit that experienced the leak and fire was a naphtha hydrotreater. It seems doubtful that this will have any significant impact on production from this plant let alone the price of products in the marketplace.

For those who believe companies that operate oil refineries burn down parts of their plant to drive up prices: are you seriously nuts or what?

I’ve worked many years in oil refineries, no one wants to have anything to do with a fire in such a plant. These plants are incredibility complicated, massive, dangerous facilities. Inspecting and maintaining all the equipment, furnaces, pipes, vessels is an almost inconceivable job and these folks perform it so well. Fires and injuries are rare, but obviously not zero which is the desire of every company and employee.


65 posted on 12/24/2021 5:09:32 PM PST by rigelkentaurus
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To: _Jim

Air conditioning! Which commielibs also want to take from us. Serves both their political and eugenics goals.


66 posted on 12/24/2021 5:59:24 PM PST by backwoods-engineer (But what do I know? I'm just a backwoods engineer.)
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To: NoLibZone

You’ll be looking or a l-o-n-g time; that won’t ever happen.


67 posted on 12/24/2021 6:18:34 PM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: sergeantdave

I did, you didnt understand.

In the proper context of this discussion, there are no such things as electric cars. That is an intentional misnomer.
There are networked computers that you may ride in.

The fed doesnt turn off all the chargers any more than the your provider turns off all electrical power when you dont pay your cellular bill.

To answer your second question, in reality there is nothing. Functionally the answer can be summed up as “Doritos”.


68 posted on 12/24/2021 6:21:42 PM PST by gnarledmaw (Hive minded liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives elect servants.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Coal is what fuels EV’s.


69 posted on 12/24/2021 7:00:43 PM PST by NoLibZone (Ruling class noticed our total lack of pushback for how the election & Covid was handled.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

They can do the same with something as simple as a disease!
Oh yes they already are.
They can control us by simply closing all the highways and airports.
They can shut down all of our electricity.


70 posted on 12/24/2021 7:01:42 PM PST by NoLibZone (Ruling class noticed our total lack of pushback for how the election & Covid was handled.)
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To: taxpayerfatigue

40% of oil gets refined to make gasoline.
If we can put a huge dent in that number we will change the world.
I love the fact that EV’s are actually fueled by coal!
Unlike you I do not like giving energy power to Muslim nations


71 posted on 12/24/2021 7:03:53 PM PST by NoLibZone (Ruling class noticed our total lack of pushback for how the election & Covid was handled.)
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To: ConservativeMind

I enjoy the fact that EV’s are actually powered by coal.
An energy source that removes the power from your beloved Muslims


72 posted on 12/24/2021 7:04:50 PM PST by NoLibZone (Ruling class noticed our total lack of pushback for how the election & Covid was handled.)
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To: NoLibZone

I live in Baytown. The Exxon-Mobil refinery covers 4,500 acres. This is a very, very small incident. Will have zero impact on gasoline prices.

Sort of like a pimple on an elephant’s butt


73 posted on 12/24/2021 8:29:55 PM PST by WASCWatch ( WASC)
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To: Karl Spooner

Haven’t seen the Venezuela prices sense the 50’s gas wars must be some of that good olds stuff.


74 posted on 12/25/2021 8:58:17 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: _Jim

“NIGHTTIME is when demand is LOWEST on the grid ....”

So I guess all the charging stations will be shut down during hot summer days?

Because electric cars still don’t go very far. And they go almost nowhere if one decides to run the A/C system.

Bring a tent and a cooler if one is traveling in summer. Wherever the car stops is where you will be staying for the night.

Petroleum = freedom. We can continue developing technologies, and supplementing with solar, but it won’t be going anywhere unless we greatly reduce population, greatly restrict travel, and greatly restrict personal consumption.


75 posted on 12/25/2021 11:57:41 AM PST by SecAmndmt (Cv19 vaccines are Phase 2 of the CCP bioweapon)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

“Electric vehicles will allow the government greater control over peoples lives. They will just shut them off if they don’t like you. Or not let you charge.”

Yep. And they can shut off a credit card now, but one can still pay cash.


76 posted on 12/25/2021 12:00:31 PM PST by SecAmndmt (Cv19 vaccines are Phase 2 of the CCP bioweapon)
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To: SecAmndmt

re: “So I guess all the charging stations will be shut down during hot summer days?”

At the moment you are appearing quite fact deficient; By your writing, I can tell you have NEVER seen an electricity demand curve plotted over a 24 hour period.

Come back when you have studied that facet of the electrical system.


77 posted on 12/25/2021 1:34:06 PM PST by _Jim (Save babies)
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To: _Jim

Tell me about the range of a fully loaded electric SUV running A/C on a late July Texas afternoon.

California can barely keep their grid up during summer as it is. Do you think things will be fine if they add say 2MM electric cars on the demand side?


78 posted on 12/25/2021 4:05:04 PM PST by SecAmndmt (Cv19 vaccines are Phase 2 of the CCP bioweapon)
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To: SecAmndmt
re: "Tell me about the range of a fully loaded electric SUV running A/C on a late July Texas afternoon."

I think the graphic above says it all.

And I'm talking 'tech' waaaay above what you're thinking of.

79 posted on 12/25/2021 4:15:25 PM PST by _Jim (Save babies)
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To: _Jim

Quick check of Tesla range says 350 miles.

That’s without A/C.

My SUV goes further than that with A/C blasting, and I can refuel at thousands of points along my journey.

There’s no comparison.

Gas/Diesel power equals freedom.

I am just surprised that a FReeper would be promoting the Enemy’s technology


80 posted on 12/26/2021 8:38:40 AM PST by SecAmndmt (Cv19 vaccines are Phase 2 of the CCP bioweapon)
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