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Alarming: Double-Vaxxed Contracted Covid at Higher Rates than Unvaccinated, UK Data Shows
https://www.infowars.com ^ | by Adan Salazar October 13th 2021, 12:52 pm

Posted on 10/13/2021 12:35:24 PM PDT by Red Badger

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To: DugwayDuke
You’re not supposed to notice that the death rates are so much greater in the unvaccinated.

Well of course not...we can't let something like the truth get in the way of a good narrative.

Also not supposed to notice that they are trying to attribute equality between two separate pools of people that are not anywhere near the same size.

21 posted on 10/13/2021 2:10:36 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: afchief

Thank you


22 posted on 10/13/2021 2:24:46 PM PDT by all the best
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To: Republican Wildcat

our citizens are being required to be used as experimental lab rats while our government doesn’t require the invaders it’s spreading across our country during a “global pandemic” to participate in the same experiment...


23 posted on 10/13/2021 2:24:57 PM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value and makes people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: Red Badger
UGH Alex Jones and Alex Berenson in one festival of idiocy. Hospitalization and death rates are about 5 times higher in unvaccinated, except in 80 and over its only 2 times higher for unvaccinated. Please folks look at the right 2 columns. NHS-hospitalizations-vax-vs-unvax
24 posted on 10/13/2021 2:42:53 PM PDT by brookwood (Obama said you could keep your plan - Sanders says higher taxes will improve the weather)
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To: Red Badger

So what is the real reason for mandating this?


25 posted on 10/13/2021 2:48:13 PM PDT by bray (Our patience is wearing thin Joe)
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To: lightman; Red Badger

It seems like some of the information must be missing or out of context.

What the article seems to be drawing attention to are the two columns showing, on the one hand, the unvaccinated, and on the other, those who’ve had more than two doses of a vaccine more than 14 days previously (the columns with the red boxes).

Comparing those, the death rates (so far) seem lower for those younger than 50 who have taken two doses of a vaccine, but then are higher for older people.

As the article says:

“1,270 out of 1,500 [80-year-olds] were fully vaccinated. 607 of the 70-year-olds out of 800 were fully vaccinated. 258 out of the 411 60-year-olds… they were almost all fully vaccinated.”

Given those numbers, it’s hard to see how the numbers in the last two columns were arrived at. If among 80-year-olds, there were 192 deaths among the unvaccinated, but 1,272 among those who had the two doses during the weeks in question, then where does the much lower death rate per 100,000 people come from for the vaccinated? Some explanation must be missing. Perhaps it’s somewhere in the actual report but not mentioned in this article.


26 posted on 10/13/2021 2:54:01 PM PDT by Faith Presses On (Willing to die for Christ, if it's His will--politics should prepare people for the Gospel)
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To: brookwood

please folks look at our government’s actions and double standards...

they prove the kung flu is a scam...


27 posted on 10/13/2021 2:59:47 PM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value and makes people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: brookwood

Something doesn’t add up, though.

Take a look at the two columns that say “Unvaccinated” and “Second dose greater than/equal to 14 days before specimen date.” Among people 50 and older, the numbers seem to be much higher in the latter.

In the chart you posted, for example, among 80-year-olds, the number of unvaccinated is 125, while the number of those with two vaccine doses is 1,259. So it’s hard to reconcile that with what’s in the right two columns. I haven’t yet checked to see if the report is available online, but wonder if there’s an explanation for that discrepancy within it somewhere.


28 posted on 10/13/2021 3:02:35 PM PDT by Faith Presses On (Willing to die for Christ, if it's His will--politics should prepare people for the Gospel)
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To: brookwood
Thank you for providing some sanity to this topic.

Infowars = Alex Jones = Crazy.

29 posted on 10/13/2021 3:06:36 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Faith Presses On

Here’s a link to the article.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1023849/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_40.pdf

The right columns are the rate of hospitalization per 100,000 individuals. The columns to the left are just the raw total number of people in each column. For example, if 99% of the population is vaccinated, and the vaccine is not effective, you would have 99% of the hospitalizations in the vaccinated. However if 90% of the hospitalized are vaccinated, rather than 99%, it means the vaccines reduce the change of hospitalization by 90%. The 1 percent of un-vaccinated would be 10 percent of the hospitalized, 10 times more than their prevalence in the population.


30 posted on 10/13/2021 3:11:12 PM PDT by brookwood (Obama said you could keep your plan - Sanders says higher taxes will improve the weather)
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To: Kazan

biden requiring our citizens to get the experimental shots while he doesn’t require the hundreds of thousands of disease carrying invaders he’s spreading across our country during a “global pandemic” = kung flu is a scam...


31 posted on 10/13/2021 3:19:27 PM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value and makes people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: brookwood

UGH Alex Jones and Alex Berenson in one festival of idiocy. Hospitalization and death rates are about 5 times higher in unvaccinated, except in 80 and over its only 2 times higher for unvaccinated. Please folks look at the right 2 columns
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One people realized that there is no valid Covid test and they are misclassifying flu and pneumonia and then denying those people treatment, the ‘Covid’ illness numbers became less important. Oh, then the CDC decided to run PCR ‘tests’ at cycles higher for unvaccinated than for vaccinated to make the vaccinated have fewer false positives. Oh, and the CDC admitted in May that only 6% of the “Covid’ death count actually had Covid as their only diagnosis (likely flu or pneumonia or both) while the other 95% had an average of 4 co-morbidities.

The Covid illness numbers are fake. The fake surge is Covid ‘vaccine’ injuries. Those who want us dead without a conventional war with China are using our medical system to put us down like rabid dogs with vaccines, false diagnosis, appalling denial of reasonable treatment, insistent on toxic/lethal treatments (Rembdesivir and ventilators.)

It’s war. They are killing Americans nice ‘n quiet through our medical system.


32 posted on 10/13/2021 3:41:37 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: Little Ray

We have a couple of “doctors” on here who claim only unvaxxed are in their hospital. They think we are stupid.


33 posted on 10/13/2021 3:47:10 PM PDT by roving
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To: Red Badger

Bump!


34 posted on 10/13/2021 4:12:34 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (It's not the job of the unvaxxed to protect the vaxxed. That's the job of the "vaccine.")
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To: Republican Wildcat

Republican Wildcat wrote: “Also not supposed to notice that they are trying to attribute equality between two separate pools of people that are not anywhere near the same size.”

Have you noticed that the anti-vaxxer posters in this forum aren’t the most statistically competent?

In a way, the anti-vaxxer’s and their vaccine panic reminds me so much of the Y2K posters.


35 posted on 10/13/2021 4:13:43 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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Later


36 posted on 10/13/2021 6:15:31 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama (Self Defense is a Basic Human Right!)
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To: DugwayDuke
In a way, the anti-vaxxer’s and their vaccine panic reminds me so much of the Y2K posters.

Exactly. I've made the same observation before.

Some of them I believe are the same people.

37 posted on 10/13/2021 6:16:52 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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Republican Wildcat to DugwayDuke:

DD: “In a way, the anti-vaxxer’s and their vaccine panic reminds me so much of the Y2K posters.”

RW: “Exactly. I’ve made the same observation before. Some of them I believe are the same people.”

It could cause one to believe there are some who are simply attracted to apocalyptic fantasies. Now that the vaccines seem to be controlling the virus, they’ve created conspiracy fantasies that the vaccines will bring the apocalypse.


38 posted on 10/14/2021 5:22:24 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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