Posted on 08/21/2021 5:29:39 PM PDT by wardaddy
Read the labels on the graph my friend: Israel uses cases per million, not 100k like most countries. So lop off a zero to make the number more familiar to you.
I can just fine. Israel has one of the highest COVID rates in the world, but the highest vaccinated. So to hit the #s from the unvaxxed, their unvaxxed would need to be running at 10x our unvaxxed rate. Like I said, believe what you want. Meanwhile next door in Palestine no one is vaxxed or getting COVID
Generally speaking, any trends for recovery vs non-efficacy do you see?(with Regeneron)
Does early treatment and mid disease treatment stop or retard progression towards death? Any examples of late treatment ‘pulling patients’ literally from the dead do you see?
That was then...it’s 80 percent now. Still really bad but a little better. Promising candidates at our hospital get put on ecmo but it is a very tasky abd resource draining process. Many more could benefit but our hospital can only handle about 2 covids at a time on ecmo without taking away resources from our cardiac units that also have patients on ecmo including trauma patients. On ecmo it’s 50 50 that we get them past post vent and ecmo stage but the patients are still damaged and may take months to reach a stable recovery...which is to say lingering side effects and shortened life span with reduced quality of life due to other causes.
Israel has a large Arabic population that are “Israeli citizens”. The breakdowns for Israel never seem to look at the disease prevalence and those dying broken down by ethnic groups of vaxxed vs unvaxxed persons...just the population as a whole is being reported. I don’t think the reporting from Palestine is very reliable in terms of numbers of sick and dying...vaxxed or unvaxxed.
You can excuse it away all you want. Palestine data may not be perfectly reliable but its also not off by a factor of 30 - especially on deaths. Per the NYT article, most of those getting infected in Israel is the affluent groups in cities that are nearly universally vaccinated.
Per the NY times article...
“nuff said”.
Not excusing anything all away...I’m just saying the data is incomplete... 80 percent who get intubated in my ICU
due to covid are goners(Percentage break downs of the covid vaxxed vs unvaxxed:77 percent unvaxed, currently 15 percent unknown and 8 percent vaxxed. The 8 per cent vaxxed are 95 percent of the 20 percent that are surviving and going home). I’m capable of looking hard eyed at data even if it destroys any prebiased narrative I might be harboring...but we need accurate data we can trust!
There’s innumerable examples of doctors who testify VAERS doesn’t allow them to record adverse reactions to the Covid inoculations.
Not our experience in the ICU where I work as an RN...local condtions may vary. In our area...15 percent of covid sufferers get sick enough to need some sort of hospitalization. Of those in hospital, 15 percent become critically ill and need the ICU. We will lose 80 percent. Our numbers of at large in hospital admitted Covid sufferers are 77 percent unvaxxed, 15 percent unknown and 8 percent vaxxed. Nearly 95 percent admitted to our ICU right now are unvaxxed. We have had few vaxxed patients in our ICU for covid and the few that were were cancer and other immune compromised persons that the vaccinations were never going to do anything for. Most vaxxed patients in our hospital got better quickly with supportive care in hospital and went home.
Now time will tell if the vaxxed numbers of covid patients will start to resemble the numbers of unvaxxed due mainly to the immunity afforded by the vaxxes waining over time.
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Bannon does like Malone. IMO he ran with Malone because he likes what Malone is saying without doing any background. Malone is saying stuff that no one else in his field agrees with. This doesn’t do vaccine skeptics any favor. If his criticism was valid you ought to see evidence of it showing up in PubMed papers. I really doubt that Bannon or 4 Chan spend much time seeing what’s there.
>12,000 healthy people haven’t died from the vaccine. You, like Phil Valentine, are a victim of propaganda
>Is it true that VAERS says 3,000 people have died from the COVID-19 vaccines?
>Answered from infectious diseases expert James Lawler, MD, MPH:
>No.
Unfortunately, the debunking reads like propaganda, throwing doubt on the numbers and giving a couple anecdotes that were not even kept in the numbers, but without any actual analysis or slightest attempt to say what the real number is. That’s sad.
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