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To: RomanSoldier19

Gaslight at is finest. NATO has pushed right to their border. When they react with exercises, we are treated to propaganda pretending it’s 1982 and they want to pour across the Fulda Gap.

This sounds like it came from Lockheed and Ratheon.


8 posted on 08/10/2021 8:10:01 AM PDT by DesertRhino (A coup government may not claim the protection of the same constitution it overthrew. )
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I know the Russian people are suffering under Putin, being held back, by the Krelinists dreams of gaining back the great powerful Russia.

It’s over and it’s gone. Putin is degrading it, while the rest of Europe, including Eastern Europe turn into dynamic economies.

Russia, but a nuisance compared to China, is indeed a nuisance, invading Georgia, illegally annexing Crimea, and sending in their Green Soldier SpecOps into Eastern Ukraine.

President for Life Putin, must be stood up to, or he will continue, and by continuing he delays a vibrant Russian people and state.


9 posted on 08/10/2021 8:17:41 AM PDT by rbmillerjr
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To: DesertRhino

“Gaslight at is finest. NATO has pushed right to their border. When they react with exercises, we are treated to propaganda pretending it’s 1982 and they want to pour across the Fulda Gap.”

I think a lot of people don’t mind being played by the Russia-hating media, as is the case here.


14 posted on 08/10/2021 8:54:47 AM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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To: DesertRhino

I worked for Newt Gingrich when the offer was on the table for Russia to join NATO. When they declined they were still given observer status which wasn’t revoked until 2014.

Also, NATO did not “push” to Russia’s borders.

Former Soviet slave states applied for and received NATO membership and protection in expectation of the Russians trying to reconquer their former slave states.

And here we are faced with the Russians trying to reconquer their former slave states.


20 posted on 08/10/2021 9:21:01 AM PDT by MercyFlush ( According to the New York Times "Freedom" is an anti-government slogan. )
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To: DesertRhino

Agree 100% with this. According to NATO doctrine (drivel) Russia is not permitted to defend itself from aggression in any way, so the very idea of exercises intended to ensure military readiness is therefore repugnant.


29 posted on 08/10/2021 11:17:25 AM PDT by billakay
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To: DesertRhino

The Fulda Gap had teams of designated teams of Special Forces augmented by 11th ACR or APC engineers who had the very specific mission to go to a specific bridge and blow up it; it was a one way mission and everyone on the mission knew they die as soon as the bridge was blown (along with everything else). Radioactive fallout was another key aspect because any Russian or WARSAW Pact soldiers moving thru the area would have become sick, incapacitated, and dead within 24-96 hours.

In-ground nuclear tripwires are on numerous DMZ’s in areas critical to national survival for nations with the capabillity or US friendship.

Tactical nukes fired from artillery is an option to nuke a grid square, so to speak keeping it local.

Neutron Bombs, said to have been developed by the Russians, are clean kill weapon - meaning that the radiation passes thru the area and all the buildings, but in 4-6 weeks it can be reoccupied by troops short term without everyone dying from radiation.

I am all for Neutron and Tactial nukes allowing conventional forces to stalemate along areas without involving the civilian populations of the warring superpowers.

Once a nation’s leadership is cutoff from communication with it’s military forces (blinded) the US doctrine is to surgically take out numerous targets without killing a billion Chinamen.... The Old Reg Guard will have no choice but to sue for peace on US terms, meaning like the old USSR, China herself will be dismantled into regional nations immediately recognized by the UN. The issue of Taiwan, the Dali Lama, etc., will by default have the Chinese leave. That China is 5K old and never forgets, for the next few lifetimes this peace will be imposed.


37 posted on 08/10/2021 11:31:06 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: DesertRhino

Long before Nato, Poland had centuries of wars and tense peace with Russia — including two invasions, a long occupation, and loss of territory in the 20th Century alone. Poland and her friends and allies have good and abundant cause to be suspicious of Russian intentions.


39 posted on 08/10/2021 11:44:33 AM PDT by Rockingham
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