Posted on 08/10/2021 7:55:24 AM PDT by RomanSoldier19
Russia is preparing its quadrennial Zapad 2021 military exercises along NATO’s eastern borders. The exercise is focused on potential armed conflicts with Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia.
This extensive military drill in September will also involve troops from Belarus, one of Russia’s few remaining partners. Zapad 2021 is intended to demonstrate Russia’s military readiness and to simulate a clash with a neighboring state in which Moscow prevails. But with this year's exercises being conducted in the midst of the Russo-Ukrainian war and the social turmoil in Belarus, tensions are increased. Especially notable is the impact on the historic rivalry between Poland and Russia over the states that lie between them.
Kremlin propaganda depicts Poland, the largest and militarily strongest state on NATO’s eastern flank, as promoting pro-Western coups in Ukraine and Belarus that are intended to tear these countries away from "Mother Russia." In reality, the region is not witnessing a contest between two imperial projects but a struggle between two strategic concepts. That is to say the concept of a centralized Russian dominion that subordinates neighbors and that of a voluntary, multinational confederation embodied in the trans-Atlantic alliance and the European Union.
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Of course it doesn’t want it back, because the population is growing more and more hostile to the Kiev government by the day.
Read the Minsk accords, please. They are specifically on the conditions of Donbas reintegration into Ukraine. The main conditions are to amend the Ukrainian Constitution for the federal setup and let Donbas and Lugansk to elect their government and representatives to Kiev; to grant amnesty to rebel combatants. Then it is going to get control over Russian border.
Ukraine signed to it, except they say they didn’t mean it. They want the border first, elections sometimes later. Not only they don’t want amnesty to the rebels, they also readied the act of ‘lustration’ prosecuting every public employee down to the public school janitor for collaboration with ‘occupation regime’.
Russia, France, Germany, even US at this point insist for Ukraine to federalize and accept LDNR on the above terms but no way.
The time is running out. It could have worked in 2015,now there is a generation grew up which hates Ukraine with a passion.
As for Crimea it is case closed. After being subjected to tee proper rule of law and prosperity unimaginable in Ukraine, nobody is looking back.
There is no special exception on Kosovo. The international law exists for everybody or doesn’t exist at all. You can’t make exceptions for your geopolitical needs and then expect others to follow the rules you choosen not to.
Ad hominem attacks and straw man arguments, agitprop stuff.
Bye.
You are either dense or merely a stubborn Putinesca propagandist.
The Ukraine has never relented that it wants Crimea and Donbas back, as they are legally Ukraine. By law they are Ukraine and by every International entity they are Ukraine.
Here are the Minsk accords:
“Six years after the beginning of the armed conflict in eastern Ukraine and Russia’s ILLEGAL annexation of the Crimean peninsula, the Minsk peace agreements to end the fighting have yielded limited results. “
ROLFMAO! That’s the most arguments you can scrape for? :)
I outlined the points of the Minsk agreements, freely available on the UN website. Crimea has gone for good and not covered. What exactly prevents Ukraine from implementing accords to get Donbas back? What’s the problem with giving then rights to elect their representatives and grant amnesty to the rebels? They are dragging on it for 6 years. That’s the only legal obstacles need fixed to return control. The more time passes the least likely for Donbas to return. It is that simple
No, the accords are merely an attempt at peace in eastern Ukraine.
The entire accords are set up stating very clearly that Russia illegally annexed Crimea, lol.
Are you are real person or a propaganda bot?
Here is the full text, upheld by the UN resolution.
https://peacemaker.un.org/sites/peacemaker.un.org/files/UA_140905_MinskCeasfire_en.pdf
There is nothing on Crimea which is a done deal.
It is about reintegration of Donetsk and Lugansk into Ukraine, the latter refuse to implement for the reasons I outlined earlier.
No. Wrong.
What it says is that Russia illegally annexed Crimea and this is an effort for peace in the eastern Ukraine area.
It calls for the elimination of Russian forces out of the area, which Russia does not acknowledge but the Protocol does.
You should read it. Read it in Russian if it helps.
1. Russia has not met any of the Minsk Protocol demands for peace.
2. Quit reading Tass propaganda.
Are you sure you are a real person? I have just provided the link to the UN website, consisting the document in question.
You are keep pushing the contradicting propaganda, claiming thing what aren’t there.
Think out something else at least, even propaganda needs to have bits of common sense.
You are the worst Russian tele monkey ever.
Everybody should click on your the url you posted and see what this Russian tele monkey posted.
1. It’s not the Minsk accords but a very brief summary.
2. It’s verifies that Russia has not carried out the Minsk protocols by asking that foreign (Russian) military leave Ukraine.
3. Verifies nothing that the Russian troll has said. Literally nothing.
Do you believe yourself? :) I provided the link to the official document and summary, you can’t do any and claim it is a propaganda.
Are you making it up on the fly?
What Russian military? Show me any reputable source ever confirmed the presence of regular Russian forces in the East Ukraine. BBC, CNN, ‘reality journalists’, anonymous sources in ‘intelligence community’ don’t count.
OSCE explicitly stated that they don’t have facts proving it, so did the German intelligence.
Currently the violence is the Ukrainian artillery shelling the civilian neighborhood to draw counter-battery fire. Look at the casualty reports. From the Ukrainian side it is exclusively the reports of military casualties. From DNR it is the cities and towns shelled, homes destroyed, women and children killed.
The Ukrainians are doing it to claim the violation of Article 1 of Minsk accords as an alleged obstacle to implement the rest.
The problem 8s low discipline, there the official propaganda can’t negotiate the stupidity of Nazi scums making the ranks.
They take pride in ‘shooting first’ an film themselves for TikTok, complete with Nazi salutes.
https://m.vk.com/video-50332460_456317975?list=4b86ccf69f9275e09e
Of course Donbas doesn’t want to reconcile with the scum Ukraine in their view is.
This shitty country is practically over. Ten million left in several years. Expect the third revolution by spring.
Of course you are incorrect.
The document you linked to does not prove your point.
All of your Russian propaganda belong to us...lol.
BTW, 10 former Warsaw Pact nations have abandoned Russia to come to NATO.
For ten posts you keep repeating ‘Russian propaganda’ and call me a liar in spite of facts and links I posted.
Zero facts and links on your side. I am supposed to be wrong ‘because everyone knows it’.
What 10 nations and NATO has to do with the lack of your arguments regarding unrelated topic? More strawmen?
I applaud your English getting better.
Your link proved nothing.
Next up for you is improving reading comprehension.
So, the prominent neo-Nazi signed up for the Ukrainian military to ‘shoot first’ and throw Nazi salutes, who filmed himself violating Article 1, blamed on the separatists proves you nothing.
Do we have to believe you or our eyes?
What are the ‘real’ Minsk accords if mine are wrong? What exactly is wrong with my ‘incomplete and fake’ link (on the UN website no less, lol).
By the way, this ‘summary’ is the only part important, being the set of obligations taken by the sides to implement accords.
You are supporting a rogue criminal regime, which killed in between 14,000 and 40,000 of its own citizens, whose only crime was to want having a say on who their governor and AG is. We are talking about the unpopular regime which driven 25% of its population abroad and ruined the economy, halving the GDP in a few years. A regime actively supporting Nazis and persecuting opposition, closing TV srations by executive orders, fleecing investors, including Americans off of billions of dollars. It is a regime subverted the campaign of President Trump to pay the Big Guy his 10%. What is in it for you?
This crap is still going on here. In ten years the Nazis they are supporting are going to blow things in the West. They’d spin it as another ‘Russian’ conspiracy.
Russian disinformation.
Even the weak Biden Administration is telling Russia that it must stop the disinformation.
Even weak Biden Admin is telling Russia that US support for Ukraine will not falter.
US Biden Admin sending military aid to Ukraine.
That is exactly tenth your post calling ‘Russian propaganda’ without refuting any of my points.
Okay. We had a clown here, defending Carter’s policies and Osama bin Laden, who has washed out upon mentioning how stupid his point is.
Now you are praising Biden, lol, no arguments again.
You have made no points to refute.
Russia illegally invaded eastern Ukraine. Trump sent anti tank weapons and now even weak Biden is doing the same.
I applaud your English...not bad for a Russian tele monkey.
https://thehill.com/policy/international/567697-bus-explosion-in-russian-city-kills-one-injured-15
Bus explosion in Voronezh...interesting. Probably going to be more of this. You hate to see it.
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