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Donald Rumsfeld has passed

Posted on 06/30/2021 12:30:13 PM PDT by jroehl

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To: jroehl

I’m joking. Partly

Actually the Growing euphemisms drive me nuts. Someone couldn’t bear to say “die” so invented “pass away”. Then even that became too much to bear so they abbreviate good English and say “pass”. Can’t even deal with “away”.

It’s all in the same family as Negro-colored-black-AA and crippled-handicapped-disabled. It’s foolishness and is going to be declared “offensive” some day anyway.

Off my soap box

Rummy was a good man.


41 posted on 06/30/2021 1:58:25 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs. I )
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To: 1Old Pro

A few months ago a nurse told me this about Covid and the “Covid Vaccines”.

“We don’t know what we don’t know.”

Spot on.


42 posted on 06/30/2021 2:08:45 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I love my country. It’s my government that I hate.)
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To: jroehl
Rummy was a divisive figure, there was no middle about him...you loved him or hated him. I found his autobiography to be excellent reading. He really poured out his soul, especially the problems he had with his children.

I respected him more after reading the book, it moved me to the middle.

RIP, Mr. Rumsfeld.

43 posted on 06/30/2021 2:15:09 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: bigbob

Rumsfeld’s CV includes lying to the American public about WMD’s in order to justify sending thousands of American soldiers overseas to fight and die in some Godforsaken craphole. Not sure many can match that.


44 posted on 06/30/2021 2:23:31 PM PDT by Izzatso
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To: jroehl

Oh man, such sad news. RIP Donald Rumsfeld. You fought the good fight. I got to meet him once at a Washington Capitals game. He was very gracious.


45 posted on 06/30/2021 3:45:19 PM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.d)
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To: bigbob
He was a patriot and true American, who served his country with honor. There are few in today’s government who are fit to carry his briefcase.

Yes indeed.

46 posted on 06/30/2021 3:48:17 PM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.d)
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To: jroehl; Impy; BillyBoy; GOPsterinMA; NFHale; LS; campaignPete R-CT; AuH2ORepublican; Clemenza; ...

RIP.


47 posted on 06/30/2021 5:36:25 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (DEFEAT THE COUP D'ETAT BY THE STALINAZI DERP STATE !)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Passed on to heaven.
Passed from this life to the next.
Died. Only physically.

They’ve declared bathrooms for men and women foolishness. They’ve declared the American Flag offensive.
I don’t really care what “they” think.


48 posted on 06/30/2021 7:49:09 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

Well, THEY are generally the ones who adjust the language to fit their narrative, too.

Thus, I’m not a fan of modifying words and phrases. Say what you mean!


49 posted on 06/30/2021 8:17:31 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs. I )
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To: be-baw

Tough smart guy. I admired a lot about him

The present couldnt carry his water.


50 posted on 06/30/2021 8:30:53 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.)
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To: dfwgator

Wrong actually, Saddam was a soviet backed dictator.


51 posted on 06/30/2021 8:52:43 PM PDT by Ennis85
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Passed away has been in the language since about 1400.

“’Pass away’ must be one of the oldest euphemisms known in English. It was coined at a time and place, that is, the 15th century in England, when most people would have believed that the departing of the soul of a dead person was a literal physical event. Indeed, ‘passing away’ didn’t mean dying as it does now. When wakes were held for recently deceased people the attendees believed that the dead person could hear and comprehend everything that was being said: it was only later, when the funeral rites were complete, that the dead person ‘passed away’ and began the journey toward either Heaven or Hell.

As such, ‘pass away’ wouldn’t have been considered euphemistic but merely a literal description of events.

The Lay Folks Mass Book, circa 1400 has an very early of the use of ‘passed away’, in Middle English:”


52 posted on 06/30/2021 8:56:38 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Hot Tabasco

That’s not even what I am talk8ng about. Its everything after the fact in both Iraq and Afghanistan. Anyone still defending either one of those globalists is either in the tank, or hasn’t been paying attention..


53 posted on 07/01/2021 8:00:41 AM PDT by Turbo Pig ('to close with and destroy the enemy")
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Unlike many, I really liked Rummy. I thought if we had just pulled out after capturing Saddam and taking Baghdad, he would have gone down as a very successful SecDef, even without WMDs. The occupation, not the invasion, is what hurt.


54 posted on 07/01/2021 8:41:25 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix) )
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To: LS
The occupation, not the invasion, is what hurt.

Rumsfeld backed Bremer, a wrong guy to administer the Coalition Authority. He disbanded the Ba'athist Party so everyone with guns went home and had no jobs. Of course, they led the uprising.

We needed to find a way to keep the Sunni in the government without alienating the Shi'ites (and the Kurds). But that may not had been possible.

55 posted on 07/01/2021 8:45:33 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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Bremer thought it was 1945 and he was administering occupied Germany. You wouldn't believe how often that historic example was cited.
56 posted on 07/01/2021 8:49:04 AM PDT by Reily
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To: Reily
Yep. Basically Bremer was a dumb@$$. Someone like Petreaus needed to be in charge. He did a lot of great work. But he was at the right place at the right time.

Whoever was heading the Coalition Authority was going to be screwed. But probably no one could **** it up more than Bremer.

3 state proposal might had been the best solution. Each tribe would have their own Governor. Clone the U.S. Senate so each state would have 20 Senators. The American system might work better than the parliamentary democracy they have over there.

57 posted on 07/01/2021 9:03:31 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: LS; Impy; BillyBoy; GOPsterinMA; NFHale; campaignPete R-CT; AuH2ORepublican; Clemenza; dp0622; ...

Unfortunately, it was just one of a long line of errors in the Middle East going back to the divisions at the end of World War I. Other than for Israel, trying to impose an American or any civilized Representative Republican or Parliamentary Democracy on Mohammadan states simply doesn’t work. Until that ideology is purged, most require a brutal strongman to keep any semblance of order.


58 posted on 07/01/2021 11:02:09 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (DEFEAT THE COUP D'ETAT BY THE STALINAZI DERP STATE !)
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To: LS

Yeah, I said at the time… US is better at breaking things, UN is better at babysitting the clean up after. Each should own its strengths.


59 posted on 07/01/2021 7:30:30 PM PDT by AB AB AB (Dan Rather: "I think you can be an honest person and lie about any number of things.")
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