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EPIC Failure ~ Short Barreled Rifles Were NOT Intended to be Regulated by NFA
AmmoLand ^ | 14 June, 2021 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 06/17/2021 5:10:32 AM PDT by marktwain

U.S.A.-(AmmoLand.com)- In 1934, the Franklin Delano Roosevelt (FDR) administration had been in office for one year. The Attorney General, Homer Cummings, was a strong proponent of national gun laws, which, he contended, could get around constitutional constraints by using the power to tax.

The Justice Department crafted a bill to create the National Firearms Act of 1934.

It was a major piece of legislation, arguably the first time the Federal Government had significantly infringed on the right to keep and bear arms, protected by the Second Amendment.

Attorney General Cummings was asked to testify before the powerful Ways and Means Committee in the House, which was considering the bill.

In the original bill, the focus was on pistols and revolvers, short-barreled shotguns, concealable firearms, silencers, and machine guns. Short barreled rifles were not included.page 1 of H.R. 9066 hearing on 16 April 1934

This made sense. The media had hyped the dangers of gangsters roaming the nation and robbing banks, armed with pistols, machine guns, and sawed-off shotguns. These firearms were demonized as “gangster weapons“, much America’s most popular rifle the AR 15 is called an “assault weapon” and demonized under the misleading name today.

There was no demonization of short-barreled rifles. Such items were commonly used for hunting, offered by major manufacturers, usually as a special order. Both Winchester and Marlin made thousands of rifles with barrels less than 18 inches long. Quackenbush made many thousands of popular short-barreled “bicycle” rifles.

The committee transcripts from April 16, 1934, (embedded below) record how short-barreled rifles were added to the National Firearms Act.

(Excerpt) Read more at ammoland.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: 1934; banglist; nfa; sbr
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1 posted on 06/17/2021 5:10:32 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

The Congressman who insisted rifles be added to the list, claimed he wanted to make sure his constituents deer rifles would be protected.


2 posted on 06/17/2021 5:11:43 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries. )
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Grumble. Got my SBR Form 1 yesterday. Happy it processed in 1 month, mad registration was required at all.


3 posted on 06/17/2021 5:16:31 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (All worry about monsters that'll eat our face, but it's our job to ask WHY it wants to eat our face.)
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To: ctdonath2

I’d love to SBR my PS90, but I’ll never register it or anything else.

It’s none of their damn business what firearms or ammunition I may or may not have.


4 posted on 06/17/2021 5:40:16 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: marktwain

Randy Weaver


5 posted on 06/17/2021 5:45:43 AM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

Knowing we’re going to end up on lists anyway, knowingly or not, I decided to be on the best lists.


6 posted on 06/17/2021 6:02:25 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (All worry about monsters that'll eat our face, but it's our job to ask WHY it wants to eat our face.)
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To: marktwain

Just a way for them to squeeze $200 out of anyone that wants them.


7 posted on 06/17/2021 6:12:24 AM PDT by qaz123
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Just a way for them to squeeze $200 out of anyone that wants them.

A way to ensure the poor (mostly targeting black people) that don't have that kind of money to spend don't get certain firearms.

Just like today in CT. It costs over $100 to get the permits to be able to purchase any firearm or ammo in CT. The permits can only be done at 1 place in the entire state, knowing poor people (blacks, Hispanics) may not own transportation to get there to do it.

8 posted on 06/17/2021 6:58:25 AM PDT by USCG SimTech
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To: USCG SimTech

That is insane.

Connecticut, like so many other states, isn’t as Blue as its perceived. Lots of Conservatives up there, too. But the cities and rich, WHITE, Wall St liberals have control, unfortunately.

One place to go and $100 bucks. Wow

Neither I nor anyone in my family were gun guys, living and growing up on Long Island. That changed after I moved to Georgia.

When I got my carry permit down here, it was about 15 questions and some fingerprints. In less than 10 business days the permit was in your mailbox.

My dad, who was still in NY, had a multi page pamphlet to fill out, with no typos.


9 posted on 06/17/2021 7:04:51 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: marktwain

Neither should silencers. For me to wait 9 month and 8 days for a device to help protect my hearing? Insane!


10 posted on 06/17/2021 7:26:21 AM PDT by TermLimits4All (Biden will never be my President. There’s only 1 option left and it won’t be pretty.)
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To: marktwain

All these congresscritters are attempting ways, to keep out of the American citizens’ hands, anything that might draw bead on THEM!


11 posted on 06/17/2021 7:41:23 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: ctdonath2
....I decided to be on the best lists

I understand what you are saying...and why...but isn't that just like hoping you will be eaten last? I'm not trying to be snarky. I'm guilty of trying to avoid confrontation with government myself because at 76, crippled and with no family, I just don't have enough fight left in me.

12 posted on 06/17/2021 8:15:38 AM PDT by Roccus (Prima di ogni altra cosa, siate armati!)
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at 76, crippled and with no family, I just don't have enough fight left in me.

At some point in life, old lyrics come to mind:
"Freedom's just another word for nothin' left to lose"
I can imagine a lot of people making use of that freedom to make America a better place.

13 posted on 06/17/2021 8:46:38 AM PDT by Pollster1 (America is no longer in Claire Wolfe's "awkward stage")
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I did a Form 1 in 2015. AR lower to host a 10.5" 300BLK upper. I built the whole thing from a pile of parts. I could buy an equivalent upper off the shelf today. It took 4 months for my Form 1 and a parallel Form 4 for an off the shelf CMMG 9mm. The government has $400 of my money. Neither rifle has more than 50 rounds down the barrel. My wife paid for a .22LR suppressor 3 YEARS AGO. It remains in the safe at the FFL. Why? Because I have an NFA trust and getting all the new paperwork, pictures and fingerprints has been complicated by having my son as part of the trust. I don't know if the Form 4 will ever get processed. Annoying in the extreme over a little tube to reduce the noise of a .22LR.
14 posted on 06/17/2021 9:04:33 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Pollster1

Too bad the Roccus of today doesn’t live up to your standards.


15 posted on 06/17/2021 9:25:26 AM PDT by Roccus (Prima di ogni altra cosa, siate armati!)
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To: Terry L Smith

Most of these Congress critters are staying low for that very reason.


16 posted on 06/17/2021 9:34:04 AM PDT by DownInFlames (G)
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To: Roccus

Not my point at all. Just that, eventually, knowing we have nothing to lose gives us a lot of freedom.


17 posted on 06/17/2021 9:42:04 AM PDT by Pollster1 (America is no longer in Claire Wolfe's "awkward stage")
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To: marktwain
the scary part of the is the "shoot automatically or semi-automatically 12 or more shots without reloading" thing...
18 posted on 06/17/2021 10:00:25 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. P144:1)
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To: Pollster1

Sorry, I misunderstood.


19 posted on 06/17/2021 10:26:15 AM PDT by Roccus (Prima di ogni altra cosa, siate armati!)
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To: Chode

Yeah, my jaw dropped when I read that, too. So according to the original wording in the un-Constitutional NFA all our semi-autos are in fact machine guns?

Come and try to take them!

SS1


20 posted on 06/17/2021 11:21:09 AM PDT by Spitzensparkin1 (Donate often, it is our FReeping ammo. Keep the supply train rollin', become a monthly donor. )
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