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Cuomo does not support single payer because the big hospitals paid him off for shifting low reimbursement Covid patients from hospital beds to nursing homes.
1 posted on 06/08/2021 8:13:23 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi
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To: Erik Latranyi

Personally I hope NY does this so we can all see how disastrous it would be


2 posted on 06/08/2021 8:15:14 AM PDT by srmanuel (`)
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To: Erik Latranyi

As long as the health systems and consumers have an opt out.

We have single-payer, Government paid and run VA Hospitals for veterans, for comparison of likely outcome.

We had a single payer postal system before competition and tech practically obsoleted it.


3 posted on 06/08/2021 8:16:25 AM PDT by epluribus_2 (He, had the best mom - ever.)
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States decide their own stuff. As it should be.

I’ll laugh as NY citizens go to neighboring states for their needs.


4 posted on 06/08/2021 8:16:57 AM PDT by Principled (Biden is illegitimate and whatever he says can be ignored. )
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It will be fun to see the elite news people living in NYC complaining about living under the single payer health plan they have championed for decades. I bet some of them will move to Connecticut just to avoid it (if they haven’t already fled NYC over crime or taxes).


6 posted on 06/08/2021 8:18:18 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Chinese communism will look different once the masks come off.)
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Excellent! Now all the progressives can finally go to New York and leave us backwards Texans be.

A win-win!


7 posted on 06/08/2021 8:19:22 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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If you like your socialism, you’re lucky, because it sucks, and you’re stuck with it.


8 posted on 06/08/2021 8:19:53 AM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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It will work as well as the (unintentional) single payer pharmacies in San Francisco...If there are any still open.


9 posted on 06/08/2021 8:23:53 AM PDT by lewislynn ( How long before they replace Martin Luther King Blvd with George Floyd Blvd?)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Lol. Like anyone needs another reason to leave New York.


10 posted on 06/08/2021 8:24:13 AM PDT by Seruzawa (The political Left is the Garden of Eden of Incompetence - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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Stop calling it single payer. Call it socialized medicine or similar; call it what it is. Stop using the lying language of the left.


11 posted on 06/08/2021 8:25:15 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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I just hope the statist socialist insanity in NY can wait a few more years so I can escape to Florida.


13 posted on 06/08/2021 8:29:07 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (Let's make crime illegal again!)
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Vermont tried single payer almost 10 years ago. It was a complete failure, would have doubled the state budget, and was scrapped within 18 months.

“That belief would prove naive. The choices Shumlin favored would essentially have doubled Vermont’s budget, raising state income taxes by up to 9.5 percent and placing an 11.5 percent payroll tax on all employers — a burden Shumlin said would pose “a risk of economic shock” — even though Vermonters would no longer pay for private health plans.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/why-vermonts-single-payer-effort-failed-and-what-democrats-can-learn-from-it/2019/04/29/c9789018-3ab8-11e9-a2cd-307b06d0257b_story.html


14 posted on 06/08/2021 8:32:07 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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As the left keeps pushing for this, including all the liberal f’ing attorneys who are rolling in money, I propose a very, very, very strong push for socialization of the legal profession.

We need national legal insurance, with prices and hourly billing set by the government. Good legal representation is essential in order to have any chance of justice in our society. Biden said as much himself recently. As such, why should the wealthy and connected get dream team legal representation, while others get a public defender?

Why should people like General Flynn have to go broke defending himself? We need to put all attorneys on a salary - fixed by the government. I'm sure all of the attorneys in government offices, and all those who leave government and get lucrative jobs at big firms would be totally onboard with this. I mean, they're all on board with socialization of medicine, so why wouldn't they be. Right?

16 posted on 06/08/2021 8:40:21 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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The elites will not care because they’ll go self-pay. If the plan has the Hillary-care prohibition of NY doctors taking private patients, they might bemoan the loss of the finer facilities in NY but will travel to other states. It is the unions who will lose their cadillac plans who will nip this in the bud.


17 posted on 06/08/2021 8:44:01 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Claiming Racism, the antidote to personal responsibility)
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Single-payer healthcare bill = Cliff diving no chute


18 posted on 06/08/2021 8:46:37 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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Where they getting the money since the rich and most businesses with any brains have left? Vote stupid! Vote Democrap!


19 posted on 06/08/2021 8:48:20 AM PDT by The MAGA-Deplorian (Democrats are lawless because Republicans are ball-less)
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MarxMed


20 posted on 06/08/2021 8:49:26 AM PDT by jacknhoo ( Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation. )
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Even Vermont decided they couldn’t do this.

Leave it to NYS to make Vermont’s pols look like brainiacs.


21 posted on 06/08/2021 8:51:12 AM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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Single payer - and hospitals as public utilities - are both inevitable.

The question is, how will it be done. Many, many iron rice bowls are going to be shattered over this.

Anyone here who thinks that their “insurance” is truly “private”, or that their “insurer” is a) operating in their best interest and b) is not in cahoots with hospitals has not been paying attention.


25 posted on 06/08/2021 9:10:58 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice)
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Do the single payers get to vote on it?


26 posted on 06/08/2021 9:14:33 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Lean on Joe Biden to follow Donald Trump's example and donate his annual salary to charity.)
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Jabari is obviously a typical utterly corrupt useful IDIOT for the Dimmocommie party. Stupid slug. A five year old could probably beat him into the ground at checkers.


30 posted on 06/08/2021 9:28:44 AM PDT by EinNYC
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