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To: zzeeman

Well that is a useful argument.

If HCQ and ivermectin were cures it would be used snd we wouldn’t have 600,000 dead.

In order for you to be correct you must necessarily believe that every physician in every place in America are intentionally not using these meds. I used them quite a bit early on. So did many of my colleagues. They are not cures like my two stalkers want to believe. And what ever activity they have it is not sufficient to meet the standard of safe and efficacious treatment to terminate the EUA for vaccines.

So either the entire medical community is in on a conspiracy to kill people OR the drugs you are advising do not rise to the level of effective as you wish to believe. There is no in between.

We tried. It didn’t work. There is no one pill cure as of yet to Covid. They will probably emerge but it does not exist today in the form of HCQ and ivermectin.

I invite you to not engage in personal attacks snd debate the issue.

Intelligently. Candidly. And with good will.


79 posted on 05/26/2021 8:59:20 AM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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"If HCQ and ivermectin were cures
it would be used
snd we wouldn’t have 600,000 dead...."


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81 posted on 05/26/2021 9:09:23 AM PDT by musicman (The future is just a collection of successive nows.)
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To: gas_dr
If HCQ and ivermectin were cures it would be used snd we wouldn’t have 600,000 dead.

HCQ and Ivermectin were purposely withheld from treatment. Had HCQ and Ivermectin been used, you would still have 550,000 dead from whatever actually killed them (Flu, heart disease, diabetes, old age) but the other 50,000 who actually got WuFlu alone would still be alive.

If you withheld the HCQ or Ivermectin triple combo from a patient that died then you are a murderer.

82 posted on 05/26/2021 9:10:26 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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86 posted on 05/26/2021 9:59:17 AM PDT by musicman (The future is just a collection of successive nows.)
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To: gas_dr
They are not cures like my two stalkers want to believe.

Stalkers? Really, Gassie?

Here's what I see. You are a 'crisis' doctor, correct? Does it now follow that you only deal with patients when they are in crisis? From what I've gleaned, those medications are only effective BEFORE crisis, at the onset of the covid and/or as a preventative.

You aren't telling the full story when you rant against HCQ/Ivermectin. There are plenty of countries and doctors across the world who say they ARE effective in treating the covid. You seem to disagree, but are you really in a position to do so?

I say no. What say YOU?

And as far as the 'stalker' charge goes, you can be a nasty piece of work. I saw it on the flubro thread (where we are on the same side of the argument) and I see it when we are opposed.

And you're the one that stepped up to aggresively confront us 'flat earther/anti-vaxxers'. So, no. You are not being stalked. You are having your challenge accepted and confronted. You claim professional authority and go right the F off when someone challenges that authority.

By your definition of stalking, you and your vax posse stalk Ransomnote on each and every thread she posts that is harmufl to your position.

No. Lets not hysterically call 'stalking'. Let's call it a battle of ideas for the hearts and minds (and safety) of the public.

Welcome to the field of ideas.


93 posted on 05/26/2021 2:08:48 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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