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First Chauvin juror speaks out and says hours were spent convincing only jury member uncertain of guilt
Independent via Yahoo ^ | 04 28 2021 | Gustaf Kilander

Posted on 04/28/2021 8:28:34 PM PDT by yesthatjallen

Brandon Mitchell, juror 52 in the trial of Derek Chauvin, has said that the jury deliberated for four hours as one juror was holding out and needed to be convinced of the former officer’s guilt.

“It was just dark. It felt like every day was a funeral and watching someone die every day,” Mr Mitchell told CNN, adding that the jury was shown the video of George Floyd’s death five to six times a day during the three-week trial.

“I felt like it should have been 20 minutes,” Mr Mitchell said about the four-hour deliberation. He said only one juror, whom he didn’t identify, was not certain that Chauvin was guilty.

The jury eventually found Chauvin guilty of second-degree murder, second-degree manslaughter, and third-degree murder. He faces up to 40 years in prison.

“The deliberation room was straight forward. There [were] a few hiccups with terminology ... there wasn’t too much back and forth,” he told ABC’s Good Morning America.

He said one juror wanted further clarifications to understand the terminology in relation to the charges.

He said: “We deliberated for four hours. We were going over the terminology so we understood exactly what was being asked.

“The one juror that was, I wouldn’t say slowing us down, was being delicate with the process more so ... hung up on a few words.”

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KEYWORDS: 1moretime; chauvin; chauvinguilty; derekchauvin; floyd; minnesota
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1 posted on 04/28/2021 8:28:34 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen
The jury eventually found Chauvin guilty of second-degree murder, second-degree manslaughter, and third-degree murder. He faces up to 40 years in prison.

He killed him 3 times. Had he only killed him once, he'd be facing far fewer years.

2 posted on 04/28/2021 8:30:50 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: yesthatjallen

Sounds like everyone had their mind made up from the get go. There is not a better argument for reversing this verdict upon appeal.


3 posted on 04/28/2021 8:31:18 PM PDT by fwdude (Pass up too many hills to die on, and you will eventually fall off the edge of the world.)
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To: yesthatjallen

If I were that lone juror, I would love to have taken on the other 11.

I would have convinced them to change their minds, not the other way around.


4 posted on 04/28/2021 8:36:17 PM PDT by PGR88
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In other words there was one person on the jury that wasn’t completely terrified that he/she was going to be targeted for extermination by #BLM...

Until the others convinced her / him that they would all be burned out and killed if they didn’t railroad Chauvin.


5 posted on 04/28/2021 8:40:55 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: yesthatjallen

Here’s the argument to the unconvinced juror. Do you want your house burned down, your child kidnapped, or your faced smashed in.
Convincing.


6 posted on 04/28/2021 8:41:28 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Civil disobedience by jury nullification. )
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To: yesthatjallen; All

April 28, 2021, 11:35pm ET

Philonise Floyd refused to criticize Tim Scott, despite being pushed to on CNN, then his lawyer Brn Crump cut him off as bd preached about “systematic racism” and began listing the few blacks killed by police...


7 posted on 04/28/2021 8:43:09 PM PDT by Conservat1
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To: fwdude

“Sounds like everyone had their mind made up from the get go.”

That is no likely grounds for appeal, and impossible to prove.


8 posted on 04/28/2021 8:48:58 PM PDT by Meatspace
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To: yesthatjallen
Mr Mitchell said: “During the opening statements, I was curious or find out what the defence was going to bring to the table and convince us jurors. I didn’t see any avenues to which they could go.”

Guilty until proven innocent...

9 posted on 04/28/2021 8:49:29 PM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911/June 14, 1944)
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To: yesthatjallen

It’s a simple fact that if you have three or so people who’ve made their minds up in a jury, they can browbeat the rest of the box into consensus most of the time. It takes an equally stubborn person to resist.


10 posted on 04/28/2021 8:51:55 PM PDT by Bogey78O
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To: yesthatjallen

The judge should have called a mistrial because of mouthy Maxine trying to incite a bunch of vicious demon-straters.


11 posted on 04/28/2021 8:58:43 PM PDT by doc maverick
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To: Meatspace

There are a couple of grounds for appeal....There should have been a change of venue and the judge did not interview the jurors.


12 posted on 04/28/2021 8:58:54 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: yesthatjallen

Racial intimidation by black jurors was the key to the verdict. Does anyone really think that a juror or jurors were going to hold out for a not guilty, if they happened to be white? They would have been labeled racists, names would have been revealed, their lives never the same, especially when their homes were burned to the ground.


13 posted on 04/28/2021 9:01:16 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: Sacajaweau

Many people think he got what he deserves.

Depending on who is paying, and how much money there is Yes there are grounds for appeal, but I think it is a lost cause on a lost cause.


14 posted on 04/28/2021 9:03:22 PM PDT by algore
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To: yesthatjallen

If you don’t vote guilty, the mob will know where we all live by sundown.


15 posted on 04/28/2021 9:06:57 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: algore

Advice to the next Chauvin - request a bench trial. A random selection of 12 people in most urban areas would be a disaster, but jury selection is not a random selection, and the impact of numerous factors (e.g., working people will find a way to get eliminated in voir dire) makes it a very bad group on average. Take the Judge.


16 posted on 04/28/2021 9:10:22 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: dragnet2

Exactly!


17 posted on 04/28/2021 9:13:48 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: yesthatjallen

Why is any white cop still working for any urban LEO unit. This is the prime example. Jury pool of the bottom of the gene pool.

Chauvin had zero chance of ever getting a fair trial in any city in America. Lots of law enforcement alternatives. Stay away from urban PD. Is there a way for whites in national guard to avoid urban areas as well?


18 posted on 04/28/2021 9:17:11 PM PDT by bakkentom
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To: fwdude

I believe that in today’s environment of ever-present CCTV, near-ubiquitous (and high-quality) cellphone video, always-on body cameras, and then 24/7 media coverage that has (both sides) spewing forth near-constant one-sided ‘perspectives’ ...that it is always impossible to find jurors who will walk into a case totally neutral.

I just don’t see how that is possible at all.

By the time a jury is selected the members are so inundated with both fact and fiction that having an unbiased juror will be difficult. Especially considering the heavy saturation of ‘information’ that makes people believe they are subject matter experts when they are not.

And that is before the propaganda and talking heads start yapping.

Neutrality will be difficult. Just some hours back I saw it. I posted a link to a FReeper from India who was in the midst of the storm going on in that country. He posted saying that 1) real numbers of covid infections were 10x what was being reported by the government; 2) real deaths were 2-3x what was being reported by the government and 3) that while the horror was real in some areas, it was NOT as bad as the MEDIA were making it and were trying to hit Modi when he appeared vulnerable.

Quite simple and straightforward.

Well, even in FR the propaganda machine one sees in MSNBC and FOX (yes, both sides spew crap) came into play!

Some posters focused on the 10x infected and 2-3x dead, to show the horror is real (which it is).

Other posters focused on the media using it to hit at Modi, which is also real, but using that to make it seem there is nothing of concern happening in India.

And that is on FR.

In the future, high profile cases with tons of video footage from all angles (often including voice) will mean that within a matter of days there will be so much media, online and offline discussion that it will be impossible to get a jury pool that is WILLING to listen.

Everyone will have made up their minds within a week of the footage being released, and then the media/online discussions will cement whatever conclusions were hurriedly distilled.

Which is why I think if Chauvin was retried the conclusion would almost 100% be the same. Unless maybe he was retired elsewhere?

Dark side of the moon comes to mind.

Seriously though, justice will be turned to commentary and feelings, and no matter where one stands on the Floyd/Chauvin spectrum, it is a sad day when deliberation and evidence are not as important as what one feels and what one fears.


19 posted on 04/28/2021 9:25:27 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: DannyTN

Correct.

Convicting on all 3 is lunacy.

And the last juror was not ‘uncertain’, he was the only one doing his job.


20 posted on 04/28/2021 9:27:54 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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