She does kind of have that O-Ren Ishii thing going for her.
Posted on 03/15/2021 7:59:49 PM PDT by blueplum
So you can’t back up what you said.
That’s ok. Save you paragraphs of blather for someone else
who will just accept whatever you say bruh.
You toss out that isolation and populism phrase as if you knew
what you’re talking about. I’m not convinced you do. First
off, I’m not an isolationist and spend time talking down folks
who are, and standing on a ledge.
My frame of reference is reality.
You’re frame off reference is no named sources and wild ass worst
case scenarios.
Nobody on the record knows how many nukes NK has, or even if
they have one. Even in the unnamed sources articles I found,
they stop for a moment to admit that, and then go back to guessing
some more.
You talk of me living in 2010. Might I remind you we live in a
time when our military has been focused on Citizens instead of our
enemies.
One short skirmish on Capital Hill, and you and I are now labeled the
biggest domestic threat.
Trump is hated by our military leaders who now speak out against
him at will.
He may run again in 2024. So what is the most important thing
to these military operatives at this time? Isn’t it debunking
Trump, as a man who can be trusted?
Biden is now framing Trump’s border policy a the real reason
we are having trouble on the border right now. Why? Because
people think he did a good job there. Biden has to tear that down.
In a climate where our armed forces are being forced to accept
LBGT men, and pregnant women in combat positions, we’re supposed
to believe that NK is more dangerous than it ever was, thanks
to Trump.
Does any of that ring a bell with you?
Does NK have over sixty nuclear weapons? In the land of make believe
they certainly do. In the land of Trump did the best he could,
I’m not sold on it. NK had one ICBM go 500 miles. Now these reports
are claiming their ICBMs have a range of 8,100 miles.
Do they? There’s an outside chance they have a few operation
nukes, and some ICBM level platforms to put them on, but their
range is theoretical.
Their nuclear capabilities are theoretical. Their missile tech is.
So in this tangled climate, one of your best ideas is to encourage
Japan to build up it’s armed forces and beg them not to use them for
imperialism. LOL. You just got through telling me we shouldn’t
get on our knees to anyone.
One of your other great ideas is to put more
of our men in that theater.
Here you are convinced NK has nukes, and you want to put
more troops in close proximity to them.
Putting nukes on Guam puts an even larger bulls-eye on it.
I asked what AIT would have done. I didn’t get a reply.
The fact is, by the time Trump came along, it was too late to stop
Kim from doing things.
This issue has been festering since the mid 1990s. At that time
we could have taken it to NK without a formidable force close by.
No we can’t.
So here you two go putting down Trump as only a populist, and
blaming him for things getting worse, as if he had been president
for the last 25 years.
You put down his supporters as people who love populists rather
than a strong military response.
I laugh at you two, because there isn’t one other person on our
side who could have remained viable against the MSM, the House, the
Senate, the SCOTUS, and deep staters across our government in every
nook and cranny.
So you two go ahead and do the Left’s handiwork, trying to get
Conservatives to abandon Trump because he was ‘all talk’ or some
nonsense like that.
In 2024, it will be interesting to see who we get if you are
successful.
Dude there’s no talk with Alt-right isolationists such as yourself so congratulations, you have the and own the party pro Russian/ North Korean communism Islamic/Iranian Islamic fascism in Reaganism peace through strength; out free market capitalism- free market economy free trade out right-winged marxists socialist populist nationalist economics in.
What’s to show for it? Oh yeah Democrats control everything they also now own national security too yeah thanks, hyper Trumpers!!!! Thank you!!! Thank you!! Trust the Plan!!!
Btw Mr. “NATIONALIST” Foreign policy it was (NWO) Kissinger who told Trump to have the summits with KJU so much for America first eh?
Yeah Trump appointed Kissinger as the lead man behind the scenes to get the ball rolling John Bolton, and others wisely told Trump that the summits would not produce nothing but Trump who was high on Kissinger telling him it would give him a legacy wouldn’t listen or heed their advice.
Btw Mr. Foreign policy most of the ideas in my reply to your non sequitur question comes from the late Admiral South Pacific commander James Ace Lyons many models have shown and proven it would work but in isolationism ville we can’t have logic of any kind after all there’s a war in our minds.đ
What you said is true. I really think Kim legitimately feared and respected Trump.
Except that I'm one of the few people here who has trashed the Alt-Right
name from the introduction of it here, and isolationism as well, you're
pretty spot on.
...you have the and own the party pro Russian/ North Korean communism Islamic/
Iranian Islamic fascism
I've not posted one thing in favor of Russia, North Korea, Communism
the Islamic state of Iran, or Fascism.
So your record of accuracy in your post remains unchanged up to here.
...in Reaganism peace through strength; out free market capitalism- free market
economy free trade out right-winged marxists socialist populist nationalist economics
in.
Honestly, your delivery here is hard to make sense of.
I supported Reagan's peace through strength in the 1980s and still do
to this day.
As for Free Market/Capitalism, and Free Trade, I've supported these
concepts my whole life. The one caveat I would toss in here, is that I
never bought into Free Trade with China. We gifted it with technology
and an income stream to be used for taking our nation down. I'll never
support that model.
As for Right-Winged Marxist Socialist Populist Nationalist Economics,
I have no idea what your point was.
If you think I support any of that, you've missed by a country mile.
Whatâs to show for it? Oh yeah Democrats control everything they also now own
national security too yeah thanks, hyper Trumpers!!!! Thank you!!! Thank you!!
Trust the Plan!!!
You're so eaten up inside by false assumptions that you verge on the
hysterical.
By the end of the Obama terms in office, he had placed Leftists all
over the place.
Trump did the best he could, but who helped? Did House and Senate
Republicans? No. Did the SCOTUS? No. Did the FBI? No. Did the
NSA? No. Did the CIA? No. Did the State Department? No. Did
military leaders? No.
Here you dredge up Q-Anon. I never bought into that. If you can find
more than a couple of positive comments from me about that effort,
you'll have come up with more than I remember making.
I did not frequent the threads.
Btw Mr. âNATIONALISTâ Foreign policy it was (NWO) Kissinger who told Trump
to have the summits with KJU so much for America first eh?
LMAO...
I hope you survived that post. I have visions of blood vessels bursting
en mass.
There was nothing wrong with trying to work things out with Kim
face to face.
Other than that, there wasn't really much we could do.
If you want to blame all that on Trump, go for it. It just makes you
look a person who not only got everything in this post wrong, but
you aren't even close to judging just how much of all this was
Trump's fault.
While Trump was over there talking to Kim, Nancy Pelosi and
Democrats were over here, shooting their mouth off, basically
telling Kim Trump was not to be trusted.
Your NeverTrump attitude is showing.
DS xiden and foreign policy. What could possibly go wrong!?!? đ
Youâd get some metal, but I doubt it would be gold. Maybe copper colored with a conical shape.
LOL... John Bolton huh... ROTF LOL
Trump tapped Kissinger to set up the meeting. Oh my God, are you going
to be okay? Legacy? You poor thing, that's what is eating you. You're terrified Trump will have a positive legacy.
There was nothing wrong with Trump trying to offer Kim a way out of the
situation, which would have seen North Korea become a modern nation.
It's people would have benefited immeasurably. The whole nation would have.
Btw Mr. Foreign policy most of the ideas in my reply to your non sequitur question
comes from the late Admiral South Pacific commander James Ace Lyons many models
have shown and proven it would work but in isolationism ville we canât have logic of
any kind after all thereâs a war in our minds.
Putting nukes on Guam, encouraging Japan to have a first class military
again, and putting more of our troops in the center of a first strike zone,
may sound good to you and Admiral South Pacific commander James Ace
Lyons, but I don't buy into it, good model strategy or not.
Your juvenile attempt to frame me as an isolationist has gone past the point
of juvenile, into infancy.
I advocate a strong global force. I am not bothered by involvement around
the globe, and I have never called for our troop strengths to be diminished,
for us to reduce our military infrastructure, or for us to pull all our
troops back to our shores and take up a defensive position.
You've been lying about me the whole time.
That's what Leftists do.
Oh bullshit you’re an isolationist hack you have yet to disproven a single thing I have posted other than typical snarky bullshit and typical isolationist alternative facts spin job but hey? Who cares you leftist populist hacks owns the party you now own the entire conservative movement it’s yours to run into the ground and you will big time.
So go ahead have your lameass weak summits with North Korea give them the Peninsula, give Russia the Atlantic the Mediterranean and back the Baltic let Iran have the bomb.
Let the Taliban ISIS Al Qaeda have back Afghanistan but when the shit hits fan you’ll be the ones sitting on your knees.
Lenin once said, we’ll hang America and we’ll sell them the rope in which we will we hang them I don’t think he ever dreamed or imagined it would be the mainstream American right which they sold the rope to that’s hanging us.
I never believed in my wildest dreams that we’re having to have knock out drag out debates with our fellow citizens our fellow conservatives more importantly our fellow Americans over the evilness of North Korea and the Kim regime.
For what? $$$$$$? Political points? That’s more important than stopping evil dead in it’s tracks? Depressing
Evil is good and good is evil
AIT you’re one of the very few left who really stands for the greater good may God bless you 10000 times over for it
Deadbrain joe will probably name Dennis Rodman as embarrassed-ador to NK.
That would be Trump, who is the personal close friend of Rodman (as is Kim Jong Un), not sleepy Joe Biden. You should get your facts straight.
I have my FACTS straight AIT!! I know who the hell Rodman is. I also know who Trump is. I made a statement simply because Rodman WAS a pal of Kim’s and had been there and Kim was an NBA fan and Rodman could be an ambassador as a silly idea. Get real and chill and just shut up if all you have to say is smart @$$ remarks!! Go away.
Great Ambassador of Christ.
Please work on it some.
You didn't have to tell me. I knew what was to follow.
...youâre an isolationist hack...
I refer you to Post 69 above. Read it again, or have someone
else read it, and explain it to you.
...you have yet to disproven a single thing I have posted other than
typical snarky bullshit and typical isolationist alternative facts spin
job...
Once again, I refer you to Post 69 above. Read it again, or
have someone else read it, and explain it to you.
...but hey? Who cares you leftist populist hacks owns the party you
now own the entire conservative movement itâs yours to run into the
ground and you will big time.
As for being a populist, I don't really qualify. I'm not
running for office. I am a Centrist Conservative, that
gets improperly labelled a Right Wing Conservative by
folks who don't know any better.
I make that distinction, because too many folk think you
have to be Right Wing, to approve of the Constitution, our
Founders, and Founding Principles. No, those things are
bedrock center.
As for me being a Leftist, you are a person who claims
to be a Conservative, while using Leftist tactics, to
smear someone you disagree with.
You seem to think folks who disagree with you have to be
a Leftist. That isn't true at all.
Lets review for a moment.
I've never voted for a Democrat in my life. I've voted for
the most Conservative guy each time around. That goes for
the President, the Senate, the House, the Governor, and
state officials. It goes for judges, city, and county
positions as well.
I've been against illegal immigration from my youth.
I support Conservative spending, a strong military, and a
strong border.
I support having our troops in locations around the world.
I don't call for them to all come home. As long as there
is some value in them being there, I'm all for it.
Too many people don't realize that it is important to
maintain relations in as many nations as possible.
I support a strong military and space effort. I desire
the best funded, supplied and trained troops and equipment.
I do not support the military being used for social
engineering.
I oppose sitting politicians who don't hold true to my
beliefs as a Conservative.
I oppose the GOPe and the RNC. I oppose Mitch McConnell
and other RINOs in Congress.
I oppose abortion. I oppose flawed racial laws that
result in reverse racism
When you denigrate me as a Leftist, and an isolationist
you make it seem like you don't really know what defines
people in these categories.
So go ahead have your lameass weak summits with North Korea give
them the Peninsula, give Russia the Atlantic the Mediterranean and
back the Baltic let Iran have the bomb.
First off, a solid political or military leader must seek
every avenue of resolution to an stalemate before using
the military option. You have spent your time here trying
to play the part of the reasoned international relations
expert, but you didn't know this elementary facet of
decision making when it came to North Korea.
There was an opportunity to meet and negotiate with Kim
and Trump took advantage of that option.
Nobody saw a major pandemic coming, and that sliced off
a year of Trump's term in office. He didn't get to meet
with Kim again.
That doesn't make him a bad guy. The circumstances
were not there.
Let the Taliban ISIS Al Qaeda have back Afghanistan but when the
shit hits fan youâll be the ones sitting on your knees.
You are so frustrated here, that you have jumped to all
sorts of false conclusions.
You have completely misjudged me. You have addressed me,
and charged me for things I've never believed in my
entire life.
Instead of you realizing we have limited options available
to us in the situation in Korea, you acted as if Trump
could do anything to resolve the issue.
In real life it doesn't work like that.
When I attempted to remind you of that, you immediately
pegged me as a Leftist. From that you made a ton of
really sideways assumptions, all of them wrong.
I believe you are a Conservative and want what is best
for the nation. So am I, and so do I.
“objectives stated by the President, and his Secretary of State Pompeo, were not achieved or reached with the North Koreans.”
Can’t claim it was a success but...
At least Trump and Pompeo didn’t give them fuel; so Kim could direct more money to armaments!
I assume Japan has nukes ready to respond to a Beijing-directed attack by NK on Japan.
And I assume they know where NK’s orders came from.
So, in sum, I assume you’re protected.
She does kind of have that O-Ren Ishii thing going for her.
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