Posted on 01/28/2021 7:55:14 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
Yes, the nazal spray and gel forms seemed to bother enough people to force this product off the market. However there was not a problem with oral forms. Here is a link for studies on children and cold prevention or therapy. It seems early use is an important point.
Doctors deliver blunt message about a record 80,000 flu deaths
Flu killed 80,000 people this past season and put 900,000 into the hospital, making it the worst influenza season in decades, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Thursday.
[[This is not correct. Total number of deaths in the US rose sharply and unexpectedly in 2020: ]]
I know the numbers the CDC is claiming- reports showed the numbers were not accurate- John’s hopkins showed the numbers for all deaths were lower- but they, after being harassed, took down their post-
Johns Hopkins Takes Down Article Showing US Deaths in 2020 No Different than Prior Years – It Doesn’t Fit their ‘We’re All Gonna Die’ Narrative
[[On its face, such a prospect is ridiculous.]]
Oh really? Because don’t forget- you had many many doctors, medical journals health centers, governors etc all telling us how dangerous HCQ was, and how it couldn’t be used for covid- 100’s of 1000’s of people died as a result- NOW we’re told HCQ was just fine and that they ‘overestimated it’s danger’ which is complete BS- You had all these entities harassing, bullying and intimidating doctors who tried to get the word out that HCQ was saving lives- So don’t tell me that it’s ridiculous to think the medical profession is in on something when they have been caught red handed doing this crap!
[[we have a million doctors and 4 million nurses telling us people are dying of a new disease,]]
They are telling us all these folks are dying of covid? Again- EVERYTHING is getting listed as ‘death by covid’
“But the scientists also found a substantial gap between the number of reported COVID-19 deaths and total number of excess deaths. “
““Some people who never had the virus may have died because of disruptions caused by the pandemic,” says Dr. Steven H. Woolf, the director emeritus of the Virginia university’s Center on Society and Health and first author of the study. “These include people with acute emergencies, chronic diseases like diabetes that were not properly cared for, or emotional crises that led to overdoses or suicides.””
[[This isn’t about shuffling deaths between causes.]]
Actually it is-
[[Healthcare disruption and emotional crises may have led to around a third of the 225,530 “excess deaths” in the United States between March 1 and August 1, 2020, a new study suggests. ]]
Here was the study showing lower overall deaths before John’s Hopkins succumbed to peer pressure like everyone else has over this hysteria over covid-
In the previous link i gave to GP site- note very carefully that JH states that the reason they pulled the article was because they were claiming people were citing it ‘to minimize the seriousness of the pandemic’ and not because the study was false-
“November 27, 2020 Editor’s Note: After The News-Letter published this article on Nov. 22, it was brought to our attention that our coverage of Genevieve Briand’s presentation “COVID-19 Deaths: A Look at U.S. Data” has been used to support dangerous inaccuracies that minimize the impact of the pandemic.”
Here’s the link again: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/johns-hopkins-takes-article-showing-us-deaths-2020-no-different-prior-years-doesnt-fit-gonna-die-narrative/
no i didnt mean to imply the oral form was bad- just that they removed the nasal spray due to issues unfortunately- it worked really well- i wish it didn’t have the side effects it did-
one more then I’m done0- i won’t bug you about it further- but these numbers are important- and they are from the CDC itself:
Consider the following figures- US Total deaths by year per CDC:
2013: 2,596,993
2014: 2,626,418
2015: 2,712,630
2016: 2,744,248
2017: 2,813,503
2018: 2,839,205
2019: 2,855,000
2020: as of 11/14 total deaths= 2,512,880
At present the US is experiencing a 1.12% increase in overall mortality rates for 2020- not good- pandemicky numbers to be sure.
However, last year, 2019, there was also a 1.12% increase. Did we miss a pandemic in 2019?
But wait it’s even “scarier”- 2018 saw a 1.22% increase in mortality rates, 2017 saw a 1.24% increase, 2016 1.27% increase, 2015 1.27% increase, 2014 1.29% increase- all exceeding 2020’s increase in mortality rate– so does this mean we have had pandemics for the last 7 years?
https://www.libertariannews.org/2020/11/26/study-covid-has-had-no-effect-on-us-death-rate/
Note that that last figure was from the CDC website in Nov of last year- That was down 340,000 from the year before-
You said 2020 had 3,326,841? Where did the extra 813,961 come from in just one month? (December?) We lost 813,961 people in just one month due to excess deaths of some kind?
Something is not adding up-
I was wondering if some of the people who had problems with nasal “burning” and skin cell damage might have been cocaine sniffers or something like that.
I don’t know what coke does to the nose really. I suppose it could damage the cells over time, but I don’t know. Lots of junk goes into cutting coke
Please note the 2020 figure was for Nov. 14. This would not include the Nov. or Dec. figures, and many morw were dying in those months, and states were probably running late with their figures. This would be especially true for states with growing death rates. If you look at “worldometers covid-19 us,” you will see they say their graphs at “Predictions” by state run about a week slow. When in Jan. 2021 were the 2020 figures finalized?
Yes but, 813,961 additional in 2 months in the US? (To get to the 3,326,841 for the year and ‘still climbing’ claim)
Still not adding up- that’s nearly 1 million deaths in just two months- I don’t think the numbers bear that out- That is 400,000 extra deaths, or unexplained deaths, that would have occurred per month roughly- All due to covid? just in 2 months? The CDC isn’t even claiming that- they are attributing 472,003 unexplained deaths for the whole year- according to the chart i listed- these numbers just aren’t jiving-
also, as of dec 15 2020, the CDC listed deaths from all causes at 2.8, about the same as the previous year- so looks like Nov deaths were reported by Dec by then-
“the CDC reports 2,851,438 deaths of all causes and 291,757 COVID-19 related deaths, as of Dec. 19.”
To get to the 3,326,841 (and climbing supposedly), that would mean we lost an additional 475,403, nearly 1/2 million people, in December alone?
an average of 8000 people a day die from all causes- during peak flue seasons- that is 240,000 for a month- since there have been no reported flu deaths, or very little so far, that would mean the total increase in deaths during the month of Dec were all from covid? Nearly 1/4 million due to covid? (Since normally 240,000 die from all causes normally) 250,000 deaths from covid in Dec alone?
If you go to the ‘per day count’ on worldometer, it fluctuates from 1000 to 4000+ per day through hte month of Dec (Deaths they are attributing to covid)- that is not enough to reach the 240,000 additional deaths
perhaps I’m missing something- but again- the numbers aren’t adding up- We were less than normal numbers till nov- then roughly up to normal count by Dec’s figures and then wham- we climb an additional 475,403 just in the month of december to reach the 3,326,841 deaths by ‘all causes’ for the year number?
You realize of course that as long as Big Pharma like Gilead Sciences can buy a Dr. Fauci to promote $3000 a treatment Remdesivir, and buy medical students and doctors with free drug samples, MERE VITAMINS will never get the attention they deserve. After all, Dr. Zelenko’s 3 part protocol, with very low cost virus killer ZINC only cost $20 a treatment. Our President and Dr. Fauci mentioned HCQ (the ionophore) many times, but shut up real fast about the ESSENTIAL zinc part of the protocol. My heavens, if doctors started using supplements for treatment for drugs, the country might even be able to afford Medicare for All, and spend less money. What, less money for Big Pharma, oh, no! After all, why worry about the health of people in fly-over country. /s
Big Pharma & Big Food are also why there is an epidemic of Type 2 Diabetes with all that goes with it (amputations, kidney failure, loss of eyesight, heart disease, cancer risk increase, etc.) when it boils down to WHAT YOU PUT IN YOUR MOUTH. The SAD (Standard American Diet) way of eating is a miserable failure ... just look at the overall health of this country. T2D is REVERSIBLE in almost every case. It is criminal what is happening with pharma pushing insulin & other drugs, big food pushing non-nutritious, cheap (to them to make) processed foods, etc. One more thing .... SAD leads to metabolic syndrome which leads to T2D & other co-morbidities for a more severe, if not fatal, course of COVID.
I will stop now or I’ll be on a very long ‘rant’.
I had a middle aged black work associate who was somewhat overweight and complaining about his diabetes. He had been on an oral drug for about six months. Because he respected my work he followed my advice to go on a very low carb diet and eat half his food raw. I also said he should coordinate with his doctor as he would most likely need less or none of his drug. Sure enough he had lost his excess weight and was completely off the diabetes drug in less than a year.
My first major nutrition rant was when I testified before Congress in 1973 or 4, when FDA was trying to turn supplements into drugs with more restricted access. Boy was that a well attended hearing and a broad range of supporters ranging from left to right and everyone in between. We succeeded, and I recently found my testimony on line.
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