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Safe harbor law locks Congress into accepting Biden’s win
The Associated Press ^ | December 8, 2020 | By MARK SHERMAN

Posted on 12/08/2020 3:19:30 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

WASHINGTON - Happy Safe Harbor Day, America.

Other than Wisconsin, every state appears to have met a deadline in federal law that essentially means Congress has to accept the electoral votes that will be cast next week and sent to the Capitol for counting on Jan. 6. Those votes will elect Joe Biden as the country’s next president.

It’s called a safe harbor provision because it’s a kind of insurance policy by which a state can lock in its electoral votes by finishing up certification of the results and any state court legal challenges by a congressionally imposed deadline, which this year is Tuesday.

“What federal law requires is that if a state has completed its post-election certification by Dec. 8, Congress is required to accept those results,” said Rebecca Green, an election law professor at the William & Mary law school in Williamsburg, Virginia.

The Electoral College is a creation of the Constitution, but Congress sets the date for federal elections and, in the case of the presidency, determines when presidential electors gather in state capitals to vote.

In 2020, that date is Dec. 14. But Congress also set another deadline, six days before electors meet, to insulate state results from being challenged in Congress.

By the end of the day, every state is expected to have made its election results official, awarding 306 electoral votes to Biden and 232 to President Donald Trump.

The unwillingness of Trump and his supporters to concede is “dangerous because in an electoral competition, one side wins, one side loses and it’s essential that the losing side accepts the winner’s victory. What is really being challenged right now is our capacity to play by those rules,” Foley said.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2020electionbias; apbias; asspress; buttociatedpress; election2020; journalism; media; press
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1 posted on 12/08/2020 3:19:30 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

In your dreams AP.


2 posted on 12/08/2020 3:23:29 AM PST by ModernDayCato
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To: ModernDayCato

When the courts prove to be as corrupt where does that leave us?


4 posted on 12/08/2020 3:26:52 AM PST by ronnie raygun ( Massive mistakes are made by arrogant fools; massive evils are committed by evil people.")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Wrong


5 posted on 12/08/2020 3:27:28 AM PST by jersey117
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Wasn’t it discussed here earlier that the results can even be challenged in Congress in January? I believe this is what Mo Brooks (and hopefully a few others) is up to.


6 posted on 12/08/2020 3:28:58 AM PST by OttawaFreeper ("The Gardens was founded by men-sportsmen-who fought for their country" Conn Smythe, 1966 )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It doesn’t. Inauguration Day is the actual deadline, as it’s the only deadline in the Constitution. All other deadlines like Safe Harbor are superseded by the Constitution.


7 posted on 12/08/2020 3:31:02 AM PST by MayflowerMadam ("Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free" Galatians 5:1)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Pray for Trump, pray for SCOTUS!!!


8 posted on 12/08/2020 3:46:38 AM PST by FLvoter
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
“Move along”

9 posted on 12/08/2020 3:52:18 AM PST by ReaganGeneration2
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To: MayflowerMadam

Even that day wasn’t adhered to in 1876.


10 posted on 12/08/2020 3:53:42 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: ronnie raygun
Doing some gardening? There's a tree that needs watering.
11 posted on 12/08/2020 3:58:14 AM PST by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: OttawaFreeper
Wasn’t it discussed here earlier that the results can even be challenged in Congress in January? I believe this is what Mo Brooks (and hopefully a few others) is up to.

They can, but every challenge has to be approved by a majority vote in both the House and the Senate. I don't see that happening.

12 posted on 12/08/2020 3:59:28 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It looks like lock and load will be the only solution or we become a Marxist dictatorship and small business and the middle class will be destroyed to create a new Soviet style USSA.


13 posted on 12/08/2020 3:59:59 AM PST by Truth29
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To: FreedomPoster

to Edward Foley, professor of election law at Ohio State University’s Moritz School of Law and AP writer, Mark Sherman: where were you two the last four years? we don’t need any preaching from you:

25 Jul 2019: Fox News: Nigel Farage: Left wants to invalidate Trump’s election and Brexit, but ‘they’re losing’
By Joshua Nelson
Brexit leader Nigel Farage said Thursday that allegations of his involvement in Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election are “unbelievable.”
“The whole thing is unbelievable. If you think about it, democracy only works if you have the principle of losers consent: you lose an election, you don’t like it, but you say next time around we’re going to win,” Farage told “Fox & Friends.”...

“What we had in 2016, with Brexit and Trump, was the establishment refusing to accept the results. That’s why Mueller was on Capitol Hill yesterday, that’s why newspaper articles are still being written about me. Hillary Clinton publicly said ‘Nigel Farage is funded by the Russians,’” he said.

The European parliament member went on to say, “The story was that I’d run memory sticks from Donald Trump straight to Jullian Assange, I mean you just couldn’t make this stuff up. There is no basis of evidence whatsoever, they just can’t accept Brexit, they can’t accept President Trump, they spent three years now trying to invalidate the results, but as you saw yesterday, they are losing”...
https://www.foxnews.com/media/nigel-farage-mueller-hearing-trump-brexit

Credlin brings up Farage and “Losers’ consent”:

VIDEO: 4m50s: 11 Nov: Sky News Australia: Peta Credilin Show: Trump stands firm because ‘Democrats failed to give losers’ consent for four years’
Broadcaster Kel Richards says the expression ‘losers’ consent’ was coined in 2005 by a British academic and signifies the consent which losers must give the election result, else “the foundations of democracy start to wobble”...
Broadcaster Kel Richards says the expression ‘losers’ consent’ was coined in 2005 by a British academic and signifies the consent which losers must give the election result, else “the foundations of democracy start to wobble”...

“Dreadful things like the Russian collusion debacle, the impeachment, Hilary Clinton saying in television interviews she really won the election.
“The result is the Democrats have made this part of American political culture - they should not be surprised when what they have made part of the American political culture comes back to bite them now.

“While there are states that haven’t declared their final and official result, while there are legal disputes - and the courts are part of the democratic process - then it’s perfectly reasonable, given where American culture is now, for Trump not to concede, not to concede until the law says he has to concede and it hasn’t gone that far yet.
“The reason he is standing as firmly as this, I’m convinced, is four years of a rejection of losers’ consent by the Democrats.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzPxF46PxG4

24 Nov 2019: UK Express: Nigel’s next move: Farage reveals NEW PARTY plan – and it should terrify Corbyn and Boris
by David Maddox
He also believes that the problems faced by Donald Trump over impeachment in the US is a sign of a wider struggle of which Brexit is a part.

He said: “It is all about the breakdown of the principle of losers’ consent. Trump victory and Brexit are not being accepted by large parts of the two countries.”
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1208462/nigel-farage-brexit-party-brexit-news-UKIP-reform-party

nine sentences, four FakeNews Reuters Staff, which ends with Reuters ***refusing to accept the result of the Brexit referendum:

20 May 2019: Reuters: All shook up: Brexit Party’s Nigel Farage doused with milkshake on campaign
By Reuters staff; Reporting by Scott Heppell, writing by William James in London; editing by Michael Holden/Guy Faulconbridge
“For a civilized democracy to work you need the losers consent, politicians not accepting the referendum result have led us to this.”...

***Britain remains deeply divided over the issue (BREXIT) and parliament has been unable to agree when, how or even if the country should leave the bloc.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu-election-britain-farage-idUSKCN1SQ1FT


14 posted on 12/08/2020 4:00:47 AM PST by MAGAthon
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I’m going to push the term losers consent all over some #TDSers I know. Thank you.


15 posted on 12/08/2020 4:07:00 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: ronnie raygun
When the courts prove to be as corrupt where does that leave us?

CWII.

16 posted on 12/08/2020 4:07:45 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

17 posted on 12/08/2020 4:17:04 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: ronnie raygun

That leaves us living in a kleptocracy like Ukraine.

JoMa


18 posted on 12/08/2020 4:22:54 AM PST by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Al Gore


19 posted on 12/08/2020 4:22:59 AM PST by VinnieCCT
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To: ronnie raygun
>i>"When the courts prove to be as corrupt where does that leave us?"

This is a government that was created "For the people, by the people."

The founders gave us EVERYTHING necessary to enforce our constitutional law on those who would subvert it...

There is absolutly NO doubt that this election is a total farce.! And I believe the American people would be within their legal rights to start getting physical, If it comes to that..

All we need is the stones to do so... Therein lies the problem.. :(

20 posted on 12/08/2020 4:25:02 AM PST by unread (A REPUBLIC..! If you can keep it....)
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