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Coronavirus emerged in Italy earlier than thought, Italian study shows
Reuters ^

Posted on 11/15/2020 6:21:47 PM PST by 3RIVRS

ROME (Reuters) - The new coronavirus was circulating in Italy since September 2019, a study by the National Cancer Institute (INT) of the Italian city of Milan shows, signaling that COVID-19 might have spread beyond China earlier than previously thought.

(Excerpt) Read more at mobile.reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: 2019; 201905; 201909; chinavirus; corona; coronavirus; covid19; italy; origin; pandemic
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1 posted on 11/15/2020 6:21:47 PM PST by 3RIVRS
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To: 3RIVRS

When is it going to all go back to China?


2 posted on 11/15/2020 6:24:32 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: 3RIVRS

It arrived earlier than what WHO stated just about everywhere in the world, including in China.


3 posted on 11/15/2020 6:24:55 PM PST by CatOwner
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To: Paladin2

My wife and I traveled to Vancouver, BC in May 2019. We both came down (while there) with the worst flu either of us have ever had. High fever, dry cough in the lower respiratory tract, aches, pains, fatigue. I had it worse than her and had to see a doc there. When the Wuhan bug showed up, we both commented that it sure sounded like what we had in Vancouver, which has a very large Chinese population.


4 posted on 11/15/2020 6:29:14 PM PST by doragsda
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To: 3RIVRS

And it came from all their business with China!


5 posted on 11/15/2020 6:31:34 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: 3RIVRS

Makes no sense. I don’t believe this unless they have specific names of infected people.

All evidence is the Virus was manufactured in Wuhan at the Wh=uhan Institute of Virology. First Wuhan cases were October at the earliest.

Unless it was an intentional release in Italy by the Chinese government and Wuhan market release was the cover story.


6 posted on 11/15/2020 6:32:30 PM PST by UNGN
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To: doragsda

Me Too.
Exactly one year
Ago!


7 posted on 11/15/2020 6:39:20 PM PST by Big Red Badger (TRUMP, the Other guy lives in a Basement!)
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To: UNGN

Cover Story for
A Coup.


8 posted on 11/15/2020 6:41:19 PM PST by Big Red Badger (TRUMP, the Other guy lives in a Basement!)
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To: 3RIVRS

China is asshoe.


9 posted on 11/15/2020 6:44:10 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: UNGN
First Wuhan cases were October at the earliest.

Source? Bet it was in Wuhan well before that.

10 posted on 11/15/2020 6:45:23 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: UNGN

1) what our the 4 peoples names?

2) what was their contact history?

Scientist that spout numbers to the media instead of finding origins of diseases are bad scientists.

I bet if you test the 4 people again, their antibodies to Covid are higher. now, meaning they actually got Real Covid in Feb/Mar 2020, like everyone else in Lombardy.

My son has been exposed to (roommates test positive) and had symptoms of Covid (fever Chills headache,etc), 3 separate times now. Only the last time, last week am I sure he actually got it.


11 posted on 11/15/2020 6:47:34 PM PST by UNGN
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To: Big Red Badger

These finds are based on antibody detection.

Also I believe France suspected the same thing based on going back through its records.


12 posted on 11/15/2020 6:50:40 PM PST by 49parallel
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Patient is named.

Was there COVID-19 in France last November? - CGTN

https://newseu.cgtn.com/news/2020-05-11/Was-there-COVID-19-in-France-last-November—QpD871eNhu/index.html


13 posted on 11/15/2020 6:59:40 PM PST by 49parallel
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To: dfwgator

The Chinese Government Says Nov 17 in Wuhan for Patient Zero. The First acknowledged cases with Early December.

I don’t believe the Chinese government, so I would say it was Mid October in Wuhan at the Earliest. The Internet says Huang Yanling was a scientist who worked at the lab who “disappeared” in November.

The End of September in Lombardy makes Zero Sense. The “evidence” being used to prove a September infection of 4 people in Lombardy is sketchier than the Chinese government.


14 posted on 11/15/2020 7:08:04 PM PST by UNGN
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Remember the videos in January of people just dropping “dead” on the street in China?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7923981/Coronavirus-Disturbing-videos-claim-people-collapsing-Wuhan.html

Far cry from what we’re seeing here, a virus you don’t even know you have but if you don’t wear a mask you’re gonna kill grandma.


15 posted on 11/15/2020 7:25:05 PM PST by Auntie Mame (Fear not tomorrow. God is already there.)
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Alternatively, the intentional CCP release in Italy backfired when some workers traveled back to China and spread it there.


16 posted on 11/15/2020 7:37:42 PM PST by rfp1234 (Caveat Emperor)
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To: 3RIVRS

bump


17 posted on 11/16/2020 5:34:20 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: 49parallel

I was in Scotland the end of last September and got sicker than a dog about 3 days before we were scheduled to leave. Came home and spent almost 2 weeks in bed. I’ve said since then that I think I had Covid. My friend that travels with me said she’d never seen anyone be so sick with a ‘cold’.


18 posted on 11/16/2020 7:54:36 AM PST by sheana
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To: doragsda

I caught a similar bug in Vegas May of last year.


19 posted on 11/16/2020 7:56:49 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: Auntie Mame

Remember the videos in January of people just dropping “dead” on the street in China?

I am convinced that was agitprop to spread fear of the virus. Throw in governors dumping Covid patients into nursing homes to boost the death rate and Covid came across as a horrific superbug when it really is a contagious bad flu.

This was integral for pushing mail voting schemes, without which Trump would have handily won re-election.

Schemers all, with the Chicoms pulling the strings behind the scenes.

20 posted on 11/16/2020 7:59:39 AM PST by dirtboy
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