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Air Force Says New Hypersonic Missile Will Hit Targets 1,000 Miles Away In Under 12 Minutes
thedrive.com ^ | 10/13/2020 | thomas newdick

Posted on 10/13/2020 9:29:29 PM PDT by bitt

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To: Spktyr

“Yeah, terminal approach is still generally at treetop height to avoid terminal area air defense. Look at the old Phoenix AAM flight profile, it doesn’t fly direct but climbs way out first to get the range it needs. Same thing here.”

The Phoenix is air-to-air.


41 posted on 10/13/2020 10:27:11 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: bitt

Sam Fender - Hypersonic Missiles

Dutch kids huff balloons in the parking lot
The Golden Arches illuminate the business park
I eat myself to death, feed the corporate machine
I watch the movies, recite every line and scene
God bless America and all of its allies
I’m not the first to live with wool over my eyes
I am so blissfully unaware of everything
Kids in Gaza are bombed and I’m just out of it
The tensions of the world are rising higher
We’re probably due another war with all this ire
I’m not smart enough to change a thing
I have no answers, only questions, don’t you ask a thing
All the silver tongued suits and cartoons that rule my world
Are saying it’s a high time for hypersonic missiles...

(Obviously he is anti-American playing a pro-American proud of being controlled by evil propaganda.
Ironically, he is right about one thing. He actually is controlled by MSM propaganda.)


42 posted on 10/13/2020 10:27:28 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Reverse Wickard v Filburn (1942) - and - ISLAM DELENDA EST)
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To: datura

We had hypersonic missiles that didn’t actually *work*. And then we tossed all the tech, and the best we’ve done in the last 30 years was the X-51, which only hit Mach 5, failed two times out of four and only has six minutes of flight time.


43 posted on 10/13/2020 10:29:04 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: lefty-lie-spy

I look back at the X-15 hypersonic research aircraft and it’s first flight was 1959. It too was launched from a B-52. What an achievement.


44 posted on 10/13/2020 10:30:27 PM PDT by OftheOhio (never could dance but always could kata - Romeo company)
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To: TexasGator

Yup, but look at the flight profile. You launch it, it goes WAY up while the motor burns, and then basically it glides back down to the target, with the last part of the flight path (depending on how programmed) at the level of the target. Same thing with hypersonic missiles - they can’t be powered the entire way to the target unless they’re really huge, so they’re going for a lot of altitude, then glide down, picking up speed on the way and often going TFR at the end. You don’t want a pure ballistic path because the other guys have THAAD equivalents too.


45 posted on 10/13/2020 10:31:59 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

“Yeah, terminal approach is still generally at treetop height to avoid terminal area air defense. “

They glide down on a ‘ballistic’ path using their high speed and maneuverability to evade defenses.


46 posted on 10/13/2020 10:32:17 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Spktyr

Zircon is being deployed on both ships and submarines now.


47 posted on 10/13/2020 10:33:30 PM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: EasySt

Meanwhile their COVID bio weapon ravishing innocent people all over the world goes without comment? Learn that sometimes payback is a bitch!


48 posted on 10/13/2020 10:34:11 PM PDT by The MAGA-Deplorian (It is the Trump way! It is the only way!)
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To: Spktyr

Minuteman III, 1968 vintage, terminal velocity on re-entry is Mach 17.

Yeah. Mach 17.

Accuracy less than 30 meters.

Sorry. Nice try. Let’s see anything stop one today.


49 posted on 10/13/2020 10:34:56 PM PDT by datura
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To: TexasGator

Yeah, that was the old plan, to come screaming in like an ICBM. Turns out that doesn’t work against someone with BMD, because there’s *no* way to hide the fact that something fast is reentering the atmosphere. The plasma burn of re-entry is obvious and can be seen with the naked eye, and the HSW is going to be very visible on IR. No way around it.

So, you come ‘down’ a distance away from the target and use the big nasty head of gravitational-induced velocity to glide to the target at close to treetop level.


50 posted on 10/13/2020 10:36:31 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

‘Yup, but look at the flight profile. You launch it, it goes WAY up while the motor burns, and then basically it glides back down to the target, with the last part of the flight path (depending on how programmed) at the level of the target.”

The Phoenix burns all the way to the target.


51 posted on 10/13/2020 10:39:09 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: bitt

“Mach 20,” eh? The rest of the article behind the link is interesting.


52 posted on 10/13/2020 10:39:25 PM PDT by familyop ( "Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy".)
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To: datura

The SM2 Block IV and the SM6 have demonstrated the ability to knock a Minuteman III in descent phase out of the sky. This is why there is currently a crash program to replace the Minuteman series.

Tech has moved on. Terminal velocity on re-entry on India’s Agni series is Mach 24.


53 posted on 10/13/2020 10:39:51 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: datura

Our BMD program can shoot down ICBMs

https://www.defenseone.com/feature/Protecting-US-Citizens-from-Ballistic-Missiles/


54 posted on 10/13/2020 10:40:08 PM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: Spktyr

From point of atmospheric entry at 90 miles up, impact is less than 20 seconds at a 45 degree entry angle. No system on earth can track, launch, and stop any MIRV. That’s why mid course intercept is best, if you can’t have boost phase defense.

Terminal entry is a fools game, given maneuvering and decoys.

The missile in this article is just another way for the military industrial deep state to spend money. That has been my point all along here.


55 posted on 10/13/2020 10:40:47 PM PDT by datura
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To: DarthVader

Please explain BMD defensive measures of Russian MIRVs.

You can’t.


56 posted on 10/13/2020 10:42:44 PM PDT by datura
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To: TexasGator

No, Phoenix does not burn all the way to the target. It can’t unless the target is relatively close; it certainly can’t boost for its entire 100 nautical mile range. Otherwise, it has a boost and sustain phase and a glide phase.

https://flyandwire.com/2019/07/02/aim-54-performance-study/

https://theaviationgeekclub.com/how-the-f-14-tomcat-sharpened-his-teeth-the-story-of-the-six-on-six-missile-shot-test/


57 posted on 10/13/2020 10:45:08 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: datura

“Please explain BMD defensive measures of Russian MIRVs.

You can’t.”

You also shouldn’t on a public forum. How would you like to be turned into the DIS?


58 posted on 10/13/2020 10:45:47 PM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: datura

The MIRVs we don’t actually have on our Minutemen IIIs?

https://allthingsnuclear.org/emacdonald/the-end-of-mirvs-for-u-s-icbms


59 posted on 10/13/2020 10:48:14 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: DarthVader

China has DF-21s that are launched from shipping containers. On any given day, how many Chinese cans arrive in US ports on board Chinese ships?

ALL Chinese maritime vessels are manned by PLAN crews. BMD requires time to acquire, much less when the launch begins in Port of Long Beach heading for San Fran, or from Bayonne to Wash DC.


60 posted on 10/13/2020 10:49:08 PM PDT by datura
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