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Yes, China's Navy Could Out Build America in a War
https://nationalinterest.org ^ | October 10, 2020 | by James Holmes

Posted on 10/12/2020 9:23:51 AM PDT by RomanSoldier19

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To: central_va

You could not be more wrong. As soon as anyone convinces themselves that they can achieve their objectives with nukes, they will do so. It is inevitable.


21 posted on 10/12/2020 10:05:10 AM PDT by fuente (Liberty resides in three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box and the cartridge box--Fredrick Douglas)
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To: central_va

You could not be more wrong. As soon as anyone convinces themselves that they can achieve their objectives with nukes, they will do so. It is inevitable.


22 posted on 10/12/2020 10:06:28 AM PDT by fuente (Liberty resides in three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box and the cartridge box--Fredrick Douglas)
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To: reintarnation

“With a navy built by Harbor Freight?”
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Good point. BTW, that same Navy couldn’t land jets on their own aircraft carriers for about 2 years. They didn’t know how. They had to land their jets on shore and have them craned back on board. They still have limited training and flight arrestors.
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Their carriers are also oil burners and need to be refueled nearly every day. It will be many years before they have a legacy of training and equipment to use carriers offensively.


23 posted on 10/12/2020 10:09:25 AM PDT by gandalftb
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To: RomanSoldier19

Already at war with China, its just not being fought with armed forces, nor formal declarations yet IMO


24 posted on 10/12/2020 10:11:45 AM PDT by Bayard
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To: RomanSoldier19

Hi.

I don’t think we will go to war with China.

I like the Chinese people (most of them).

But, in the fwiw department, the Chicom navy might not make it out of port in a war. Including the SSBNs.

Imho of course.

5.56mm


25 posted on 10/12/2020 10:19:22 AM PDT by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP! Finish THE WALL!)
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To: 9YearLurker

And all they have to do is wait for Amerika to elect another treasonous liberal globalist whore the likes of jorge busho or barry O’Bummer and we’ll invite them in by the millions. Under cover of darkness. Paid for by your tax dollars.


26 posted on 10/12/2020 10:29:28 AM PDT by LouAvul (The wheels of America are coming off and the media have stolen the lug nuts.)
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To: fatman6502002

China ping


27 posted on 10/12/2020 10:37:35 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: RomanSoldier19

Ain’t it great we helped them build so much of their industry while destroying our own?

Gotta luv the Globalists/neocons and their lackeys..the Bush family, the Clintoons, Soros, Buffett (not Jimmy), Gates, the odious Timmy Cook...on and on.

Just great.


28 posted on 10/12/2020 10:38:28 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: Russ

Psst. I know it’s TOP SECRET so someone should tell our stupid Admirals to have a standing attack plan to destroy their shipyards.

(/s)


29 posted on 10/12/2020 10:39:02 AM PDT by beancounter13
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To: 9YearLurker
Why should they even need to bother? Just another, slightly worse, release of a cold virus should about do us in.

That's no joke. A 22 trillion economy obliterated over a strain of the flu dangerous primarily to elderly nursing home residents and morbidly obese, scooter-riding Walmart shoppers.

30 posted on 10/12/2020 10:41:32 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: ClearCase_guy

Don’t underestimate China’s bamboo supply. They could out build our Navy with all of that bamboo. /sarc


31 posted on 10/12/2020 10:41:49 AM PDT by salmon76 (You can vote your way into socialism, but you'll have to shoot your way out)
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To: RomanSoldier19

The Chinese Communist Party should ask Germany and Japan about War production


32 posted on 10/12/2020 10:55:34 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: Regulator
Remember that the Russian Empire, a power in decline and heavily infiltrated by subversive elements, thought it could easily handle the Imperial Japanese Navy. Our general staff is dominated by Obama appointed perfumed princes. Perverts and women in combat roles are in our military, not to mention leftist subversives in the ranks who would sabotage our armed services. Even in the 1950s, Lee Harvey Oswald was in the Marines; how much worse is it in 2020? Other examples of overconfident militaries include Santa Anna against ragtag Texas militias, Hitler and Napoleon vs. backward Russia, the British against the Continental Army.

Even if the U.S. military looks better on paper than the Chinese armed services, these factors may lead to an American defeat in the Pacific and East Asia.

33 posted on 10/12/2020 10:56:23 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: RomanSoldier19

Free Trade with China...

What could go wrong?


34 posted on 10/12/2020 11:01:49 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (If you're neverTrump at this point, drop the charade, you're just never the United States.)
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To: PGR88

China would have to outbuild Korea, Japan, US, Australia, Israel,UK, India, ....

They can’t. China has failed by pissing off everyone. Name one country that would fight for then against the free world that could help them. NK? Iran? Turkey? Only NK could cause issues by forcing South Korea to focus domestically. Iran and Turkey would not risk their positions in the ME. They would get slaughtered by a ME coalition.

The fact is the US is the only country in the world that leaves a country we war against better of than before the war. I would hope that pays off long term. No one wants a global power from China. Not even Russia.


35 posted on 10/12/2020 11:07:54 AM PDT by wgmalabama
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To: RomanSoldier19

Relying on numbers leads to a lot of people getting killed.


36 posted on 10/12/2020 11:11:45 AM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I’m not sure if WWII thinking is applicable to today.


37 posted on 10/12/2020 11:19:23 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie (When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.)
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To: RomanSoldier19

Meanwhile, the CCP is facing unheard of actual opposition from those who don’t want antibusiness communists meddling in their lives.

I suspect the communists CCP must crack down and that will just exacerbate their problem.

Then there is what is described as the mother of all real estate banking debacle. There is right now a problem with outstanding loans and decreasing value. That head ache is on top of the simmering trouble in Hong Kong and the extensive immeasurable flood and typhoon losses.

Crop losses and grain storage rot add further to the problems. Entire cities are locked down from Covid

Trump tariffs bite.

Xi was photographed in a full gray Mao suit rather than his blue suit and red tie.

His life at ptesent must be trying on his soul


38 posted on 10/12/2020 11:29:26 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) t Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay My, o. h, my, what a wonderful day)
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To: RomanSoldier19
Um.....the ChiComs can only outbuild us if we leave their infrastructure alone.

That ain't gonna happen.

39 posted on 10/12/2020 11:31:24 AM PDT by Wizdum
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To: Zhang Fei

Keep dreaming. China’s military tech is only as good as what they can steal, and the good stuff like stealth tech is kept from them, that’s why they cannot make stealth work nearly as well as US stealth tech. Its the same as the cold war, the commies then chose numbers over technology, and today’s commies are making the same mistake. Western tech, when all our new platforms, weapons, sensors and comms are deployed will get our tech advantage back to 25 to 35 years ahead. China, due to being communist, and the first priority is to protect the Party, will continue to make the same mistakes the Soviets made. And woe be the CCP if they start a shooting war, if they do the world is going to see some weapons and systems quickly deployed that nobody has any idea we possess. Like the Tic-Tac drones, no they’re not extraterrestial, they’re ours, and they’re just the tip of the iceberg. So ping China all you want, they’re just another commie country on the wrong side of history, I feel sorry for the Chinese people though, if any people on earth deserve freedom and a say in their country’s politics, it is the Chinese people.


40 posted on 10/12/2020 11:57:26 AM PDT by fatman6502002 ((The Team The Team The Team - Bo Schembechler circa 1969))
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