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To: george76
The overall increase in deaths this year is almost completely from people not being able to get treatment or people being afraid to get treatment for the real killers, heart disease, strokes and cancer.

My wife's older brother died earlier this year. He had an inoperable cancerous brain tumor. At that time the only people able to gt tests for Covid were health care workers, emergency responders, politicians, and celebrities. He was not tested, but was counted as a “presumptive” covid 19 death probably because of financial incentives.

Despite smoking being on the decline it is still directly attributable for approximately 500,000 deaths per year in this country which is over twice as many attributed to covid.

The biggest fraud is the way that they count covid deaths. There is a huge difference between dying with covid and dying from covid. Less than 12,000 people have died from covid, the other 200,000 counted in this country have died with covid... maybe. The virus is pervasive enough that the most popular test can detect traces of its DNA it in almost everyone if the test is “oversampled” enough times. But that does not necessarily mean that they amounts found are actually contagious or even enough to cause symptoms.

10 posted on 10/10/2020 6:48:09 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: fireman15

I have a relative who was to have a seed implant for prostate cancer back in March, right when covid blew up and all procedures were put on hold. When he finally was able to see an oncologist and get new scans, his cancer had spread. He treatment now includes chemo and radiation.


13 posted on 10/10/2020 6:55:33 AM PDT by a real Sheila (Love my golden retrievers!)
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To: fireman15

“Despite smoking being on the decline it is still directly attributable for approximately 500,000 deaths per year in this country”

When I see the way they’ve been lying about covid deaths, it makes me wonder about tobacco death numbers, too.

I mean, the “second-hand smoke” science is totally fraudulent, so why wouldn’t they lie about tobacco deaths, too?


33 posted on 10/10/2020 8:33:04 AM PDT by dsc (Do not pray for easy lives; pray to be stronger men.)
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To: fireman15

The overall increase in deaths this year is almost completely from people not being able to get treatment or people being afraid to get treatment for the real killers, heart disease, strokes and cancer.

Many of us have been on backorder for same day care procedures that quote are not life saving.

The problem is many of these same day surgery mend or correct problems where we might have walking safely around our homes, in our yards and the sidewalks roads around our home.

3 weeks ago I finally got my second toe on my right foot amputated. I originally was scheduled in late March.

I never fell, but I came close to it several times. My RN wife watched me like a hawk when I limped around her. Now I am probably walking better and safer for years.

One of my BIL’s has a really bad knee. He has constant pain and is also unstable walking even with a cane. He finally has a knee replacement date after this Thanksgiving.

Since the end of August, friends and relatives have had well over a dozen knee or hip replacements, two have had back and/or neck surgery. 3 Church friends this past week had some type of orthopedic surgery. 4 have had cataract surgery in the past 2 weeks.


43 posted on 10/10/2020 9:15:18 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The line that separated Satire, Democrats and Stupidity has vanished. (thanks to jonascord)!)
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