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Volkswagen's electric microbus: Much virtue-signaling, little virtue; How do woke environmentalists think these electric vehicles get made, anyway?
American Thinker ^ | 10/02/2020 | Henry Pierson

Posted on 10/02/2020 8:17:51 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Electric vehicles are coming from Volkswagen.  Hate to disappoint, but if you love the environment, this is a step backward.

Recently, an amendment to a green energy bill in the House was defeated.  It would have required the secretary of commerce to certify that federally funded buses and charging stations do not contain minerals mined or processed by children.  The Democrat majority said such an amendment was not necessary since the U.S. already has trade agreements prohibiting child labor.  Ah, but not with the Congo or Zimbabwe.  Clever.

Why is this important?  The U.S. has produced zero cobalt in the past 40 years.  Without cobalt, there would be no electric car batteries, and half of the world's supply of cobalt comes from the Democratic Republic of Congo, where some 40,000 kiddies dig for cobalt by hand.  Here's a CBS News article on it, and here's another from ABC News Australia.  They toil under appalling conditions for 12 hours per day, earning something between $1 and $2 per day.  Is that a living wage, even in the Congo?

And where does the lithium for car batteries come from?  Mostly the high deserts of Argentina, Chile, and Bolivia, which hold 75% of the world's lithium deposits.  Water is pumped underground, where it dissolves the lithium, then pumped to the surface to evaporate so the salts can be scooped up.  Here's a brief overview.  

It takes 500,000 gallons of water to extract one ton of lithium.  A Tesla Model S contains nearly 140 lb of lithium.  Who would otherwise use the water evaporated for lithium extraction?  Subsistence farmers, mostly indigenous people.  Who cares?  Their sacrifice allows richer, older American males to do their bit to save the planet.  Demographics of Tesla-owners can be found here.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bidenvoters; bloggers; electriccar; environmentalists; faketitle; microbus; volkswagen
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1 posted on 10/02/2020 8:17:51 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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So where are rare earths mined and refined? There is a single rare earth mine in the U.S., in eastern California. It is now owned by the Chinese, and its ore is refined in China.

In fact, rare earths overwhelmingly come from China, which has the most global reserves of rare earth elements (42 percent) and produces around 89 percent of global output. So that takes care of the problem of disposing of the waste!

But don’t worry — those activities take place in Inner Mongolia and Tibet, so it’s not a problem, right?


2 posted on 10/02/2020 8:18:39 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

“It’s the thought that counts!”


3 posted on 10/02/2020 8:20:00 AM PDT by Professional
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To: SeekAndFind
Child miners aged four living a hell on Earth so YOU can drive an electric car: Awful human cost in squalid Congo cobalt mine that Michael Gove didn’t consider in his ‘clean’ energy crusade
4 posted on 10/02/2020 8:26:16 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Where do you find the word "except" in the 2nd Amendment?)
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To: Professional

Actually it’s the “Greener than thou” self righteousness that counts with environmentalists.


5 posted on 10/02/2020 8:28:11 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Where do you find the word "except" in the 2nd Amendment?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Not to mention EVERY component required. Sort of like the major enviro minded trek clothes companies and their high tech synthetic winter wear.


6 posted on 10/02/2020 8:30:40 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: SeekAndFind
Why renewables can’t save the planet (Or, how an environmentalist got mugged by reality) 17min video well worth the time!!
7 posted on 10/02/2020 8:32:51 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Where do you find the word "except" in the 2nd Amendment?)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is exactly why wind and solar, as presently available, are nearly at the end of their rope.

Everyone agrees they are highly unstable power sources. The only option to increase them much more than 15% on a grid is with battery storage. But the batteries needed for even a tiny amount of “renewables” electricity storage would be HUGE - far beyond present manufacturing capacity, with absolutely NO consideration of the cost, energy-input to make them or availability or environmental impact of raw materials.

I’m convinced the world is going back to nuclear. Politics and minds need to change, and it could take a decade or two - but the world is going to be shocked into it.


8 posted on 10/02/2020 8:37:28 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: SeekAndFind

Made from pixie dust by magic fairies !


9 posted on 10/02/2020 8:38:47 AM PDT by Reily
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To: SeekAndFind

And where is the electricity to charge them going to come from? California apparently can’t keep the lights on now as it is. Coal, oil, natural gas is out, Hydro power is out—gotta save the salmon, Nuclear is right out. Solar doesn’t work at night or cloudy days and wind power isn’t reliable either.


10 posted on 10/02/2020 8:39:06 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: SeekAndFind
"How do woke environmentalists think these electric vehicles get made, anyway?"

Not to mention, how do these idiots think most of the electricity is generated?
11 posted on 10/02/2020 8:39:30 AM PDT by indthkr
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To: SeekAndFind

“Their sacrifice allows richer, older American males to do their bit to save the planet.”

Makes me think of the phrase from the sixties, “If it feels good, do it” (never mind the consequences).


12 posted on 10/02/2020 8:39:47 AM PDT by READINABLUESTATE ( Deplorable, and proud of it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The left has used “science” to conclude that electricity grows on trees.

Neanderthals had more brains than the modern virtue signaling leftists.


13 posted on 10/02/2020 8:40:52 AM PDT by cgbg (Masters don't want slaves talking about masters and slaves.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve always been a gadget freak.

I don’t buy into the global warming nonsense. I don’t really
worry about ICE vehicles and their impact on the environment.

I would love to own that VW Bus.

Groovy...

LMAO


14 posted on 10/02/2020 8:41:54 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Some of the folks around these parts have been sniffing super flu.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Also, my state, KY should put a bumper sticker on all electric cars that says, “Powered by Coal”.


15 posted on 10/02/2020 8:44:56 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: SeekAndFind

Toyota is moving its Sienna van to the Hybrid powertrain in 2021. They should have included a charging plug but didn’t. We bought our third Sienna recently before the changeover - wanted another of those almost 300hp V6 engines. 6.9 seconds to reach 60 MPH from a standstill while it is able to run a quarter-mile in 15.3 seconds. Not bad for a minivan that can seat eight sometimes frightened passengers. :)


16 posted on 10/02/2020 9:11:01 AM PDT by amorphous
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I wouldn’t mind owning an electric vehicle...not because it is green..it is less green than an efficient internal combustion vehicle....but for shorter runs in a local area an ev could be handy...I like the Bollinger electric suv...


17 posted on 10/02/2020 9:11:37 AM PDT by TnTnTn
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To: amorphous

Almost every minivan I encounter is always the slowest thing on the road.

Usually never a turn signal either.


18 posted on 10/02/2020 9:27:25 AM PDT by wally_bert (Transmission tone, Selma)
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To: SeekAndFind

AOC’s “Green Raw Deal” is touted as creating thousands of new jobs in green energy. Apparently she means children in third world countries.


19 posted on 10/02/2020 9:29:14 AM PDT by nuke_road_warrior (Making the world safe for nuclear power for over 20 years)
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Yeah, I can't resist outracing certain "sportscars" after the light turns green. I just match their speed at first, until they run out of horses. It really pisses them off, beaten by a minivan.

The newer Toyota comes with lane-assist. If you don't use the turn-signal, you get an annoying beep, beep, beep.

20 posted on 10/02/2020 9:37:22 AM PDT by amorphous
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