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A Reminder to American Jews: Civilization Is Fragile
Townhall.com ^ | September 29, 2020 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 09/29/2020 3:58:53 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Gen.Blather; ClarityGuy
In other words, we shouldn't expect to be put to the test in the way the Nazis might have done it. But having never been tested in such a fashion is not a reason to embrace conceits about how good we are. People sometimes say, "I'm a pretty decent person. I've never killed anyone." Yeah, but just how steadfast have you been in the face of whatever moral pressures you have experienced? (And what if we include the sugar-sweet temptations, not just the brutish ones?)
21 posted on 09/29/2020 9:38:51 AM PDT by ClarityGuy
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To: wardaddy

“This is just amazing the chutzpah
Is he being honest by half?
Or dishonest by half?”

The late Larry Auster used to call Dennis “a confused liberal” and that’s what’s going on.

When Dennis got his first radio show after arriving in LA (the Sunday night Religion On The Line) he used to tell listeners who referred to him as a conservative that he’s actually a ‘60s Eugene McCarthy, RFK liberal. And he still is, they just rebranded themselves as neoconservatives during Reagan.

Anyway Auster pointed out that while Dennis admires and praises most of what conservatives hold to, Dennis still hangs on to the liberal values that led to the chaos that he doesn’t like, and yet as bright as he is he can’t figure out the connection.


22 posted on 09/29/2020 9:44:53 AM PDT by Pelham (Liberate the Democrats from their Communist occupation)
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To: Kaslin

They know, they simply have never cared. In 1933, many Jews still supported the Nazi regime. Prosperity outweighs pragmatism.


23 posted on 09/29/2020 9:51:41 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: Gen.Blather
He believes that there is a solid morality that is independent of education and culture. His morality is not dependent on propaganda or how people are raised, the times they live in or the political or economic realties they are exposed to. His morality is a feature of the universe like time or gravity. He was outraged that his morality was breached and the people who breached it are less human than him.

Dr. Jordan Peterson goes into this in great detail, and he states flat out that the vast majority of people in any society WILL participate in some of the worst actions possible by human beings. Most people who have the chance to make the decision will tent to "go along to get along." I believe him.

Mark

24 posted on 09/29/2020 9:57:55 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Pelham

I appreciate Praegers affection for Christians but he’s missing the reality in his tribe

Or ignoring it


25 posted on 09/29/2020 10:19:09 AM PDT by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you run the tra)
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To: Kaslin

Satan hates most...His Chosen...jews and catholics/christians. If he can corrupt and turn us, he goes hard. Look at the pro-abortion catholics and jews on supreme court, in the streets and congress. Kennedy, pelosi biden...gems. That’s why we pray for every one of our enemies and persecutors because unlike satan, these dolts were created and loved by God and He wants their repentence and love returned...still. Satan has been judged so it’s over for him. The others still alive have a chance and thus need our prayers. Think Ninevah.


26 posted on 09/29/2020 11:18:57 AM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: wardaddy

He’d notice if someone else was equally overlooking the faults of their own tribe.

If you ever want to hear Prager totally lose his cool just bring up “Jews for Jesus”. Not kidding.


27 posted on 09/29/2020 9:48:54 PM PDT by Pelham (Liberate the Democrats from their Communist occupation)
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To: Pelham

Really.....he doesn’t cotton to Jews finding Christ ....

Guess he and Kudlow are stiff

Or Kathie Lee....hell shes still pretty....lives near me I hear...now

Any Jew decides to follow our lord I’m with them 1000%

Even liberal ones

Takes courage

Respect to them


28 posted on 09/29/2020 10:03:16 PM PDT by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you run the tra)
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To: wardaddy

Thanks for your input. There is no doubt now that 75 years after the end of WWII the world now consists of (at least) two distinct Jewish mindsets:

1) American, European (Liberal) assimilating Jews.Those that do not know Hebrew. Flung out, “Joan Baez Judaism”. Kumbaya. Minority of Orthodox. MAjority, “unaffiliated”.
No security concerns except Temple being attacked.Unrealistic approach to reality, totally unprepared to confront any threat.

2) Israeli (Ashkenazi/Sephardic Hybrids) Conservative, less assimilating Jews. Those that know & live Hebrew. Traditional, secular and Orthodox. Total security concerns and personal involvement as trained soldiers. Realistic approach to reality, even Left-wingers. Ready to confront any threat.

Your grandma’s term, “spoilt” is right on and that is the major part of the problem. America has given Jews (and others) a very comfortable and cushy life.

Israelis had it tough always but in the last 25 years, they too are getting “soft” and comfortable. Many Israelis are “spoilt” now BUT, and this is a big but, the reality of death is just around the corner. This keeps even the most liberal Israeli on his or her toes.

America has changed and that change came from the 1960’s which is still being played out. Americans, not just Jews at one time were fairly educated about what it means to be an American. There were courses in Civics and the great traditions of the Western world were almost holy. The flag and patriotism were, holy.

Now, ignorance and rejection seems to have become a dominant force and there is a serious loss of knowledge, purpose, direction and a solid infrastructure.

Hollywood has contributed to this downfall in a big way showing unlimited violence, cynical messages about marriage and a well behaved, honorable life and praising or making villains and thieves heroes.

I am not sure where you say, “Racism” has replaced “Class Struggle”. Seems like Class Struggle is also part of the radical Left’s agenda too.

In summation, Jews had better wake up and leave the “Woke up” movement for it will only backfire on them in the end.


29 posted on 09/29/2020 10:40:24 PM PDT by Netz ( and looking for a way ti IMPROVE mankind.i)
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Well written Netz

I agree and I hope so

I’m not a religious person who views Jews and Israel as a rapture de facto talisman

I simply know and like Israel and I like Jews as a rule for their acumen and industriousness though admittedly it can be trying given how so many are so misdriven ideologically

I’ve also know Jewish women who liked me as a a sorta forbidden ubergoy

And I can’t say it wasn’t pleasant being exploited as such....

Feminism ne damned ......ravish me

Women I swear sometimes they deny their instincts despite said instincts in the form of hormones raging through every crevasse of their bodies

Feminism which has infected way too many Jewish gals has just confused the crap out of ladies

I guess though with dope addled thugs burning down out cities feminism seems quaint today


30 posted on 09/29/2020 11:07:40 PM PDT by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you run the tra)
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31 posted on 09/30/2020 7:20:15 AM PDT by SJackson (wondered...what 10 Commandments would have looked like if Moses had run them through..Congress, RR)
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"Really.....he doesn’t cotton to Jews finding Christ ..."

Prager won't argue that a Jewish atheist isn't part of The Tribe. Nor a Jewish "Buddhist", they are still in The Tribe. But a 'Jew For Jesus', that really lights him up. He says "They are no longer Jewish!!" If I wanted some cheap entertainment I'd call his show and ask him a question about Jews for Jesus just to get the reaction.

32 posted on 09/30/2020 6:48:04 PM PDT by Pelham (Liberate the Democrats from their Communist occupation)
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To: Kaslin

Did the pompous pr!ck praeger ever apologize to Bob Grant before he died?


33 posted on 09/30/2020 6:54:13 PM PDT by bankwalker (groupthink kills ...)
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To: wardaddy

Wardaddy, I will get back to your comments soon...thanks.


34 posted on 10/07/2020 12:27:54 AM PDT by Netz ( and looking for a way ti IMPROVE mankind.i)
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To: wardaddy

Wardaddy, I will get back to your comments soon...thanks.


35 posted on 10/07/2020 12:30:45 AM PDT by Netz ( and looking for a way ti IMPROVE mankind.i)
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To: wardaddy

Dear Wardaddy - I am an proud, patriotic, American-Israeli Jew.

I can take whatever you throw at me (and my kinsmen) as I love a good argument or critique. I agree that Jews are industrious (look what the Jews did with Israel in 72 years, which was a bloody desert in 1948 with no resources!).

I agree that we can be a royal pain in the a— as I agree 100% with your claim of many of us being misguided, misdriven by bad ideologies throughout history.

Why are we still niave? I have no friggin’ idea.

You went off on a female tangent there for a moment but all is forgiven.

Yes, Jewish girls, (being “progressives”) wholeheartedly embraced Feminism just as Jews in the 60’s embraced the hippie-Left agenda. The reason for this is as follows:

Jews think ahead, think for a better future, champion “justice” and (unfortunately) grasp onto ideas that eventually come around to stab them in the back as in many revolutions or movements have done.

You should know though, that there are many (not enough) Jews like me, conservative and Republican who were members of the NRA.

Unfortunately, many Jews in the States suffer from a condition called TLH, or Terminal Liberal Hemorrhoids and this is extremely hard to cure but I and others are working on it.


36 posted on 10/07/2020 2:00:57 AM PDT by Netz ( and looking for a way ti IMPROVE mankind.i)
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