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To: MacNaughton

Your observations 1, 4, 6 and 7 don’t really apply to the Saudis.

2. Actually, that culture does appear to be slowly wasting away in KSA and a few other area states. The under-30 set seem to be moving more and more to a “Islamic In Name Only” much like most Americans are Christians In Name Only - going to church a few times a year at most, only generally observing some of the requirements, etc.

3. Yes, they still have Saudi royal family members that are doing so, but again the current Crown Prince is starting to imprison or even kill them in large numbers. Saudi financial support for terror is dropping precipitously.

5. No, but it can become Islam In Name Only. The numbers of under-30 Saudi that drink, eat pork and do all sorts of other Islamic mortal sins is getting to be ridiculous.


16 posted on 09/26/2020 10:10:26 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr
16 Your observations 1, 4, 6 and 7 don’t really apply to the Saudis.

We will have to agree to disagree.

1. If the Persian Shia threat is still real, the Arab Sunni posture will remain in place. Arab = KSA, Jordan, UAE, Bahrain, and Yemen. Not sure about Oman.

4. The Muslim ummah in Europe and the U.S. are receiving funding, i.e. jihad $ from KSA.

6. Of course Sunni Islam (in particular KSA and UAE) is practicing taqiyah on Pope Francis.

7. The UAE are Arab Sunni Muslims. They will ally with KSA against the Persian Shia threat.

2. Actually, that culture does appear to be slowly wasting away in KSA and a few other area states. The under-30 set seem to be moving more and more to a “Islamic In Name Only” much like most Americans are Christians In Name Only - going to church a few times a year at most, only generally observing some of the requirements, etc.

I continue to pray that more and more Muslims in the ME abandon Islam and in the process find Christianity.

3. Yes, they still have Saudi royal family members that are doing so, but again the current Crown Prince is starting to imprison or even kill them in large numbers. Saudi financial support for terror is dropping precipitously.

I have read the articles regarding MBS and his efforts to purge the faithful Muslim royal family members. I remain skeptical.

Not buying it that KSA is defunding worldwide jihad.

5. No, but it can become Islam In Name Only. The numbers of under-30 Saudi that drink, eat pork and do all sorts of other Islamic mortal sins is getting to be ridiculous.

I have heard these stories for 20 years and no doubt it is going on. But in the ummah, when push comes to shove, the faithful Muslims have prevailed.

18 posted on 09/26/2020 3:50:11 PM PDT by MacNaughton
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