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Air Force reveals it secretly built and flew new fighter jet
The Hill ^ | Today

Posted on 09/15/2020 11:13:32 PM PDT by cba123

The Air Force on Tuesday revealed that it has secretly built and flown a prototype of its next-generation fighter jet, according to the service's top acquisition official.

The jet, built as part of the Air Force's Next Generation Air Dominance (NGAD) program, was first disclosed to Defense News on Monday.

Air Force acquisition head Will Roper told the outlet that the service could now move the jet into production "pretty fast."

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KEYWORDS: airforce; aviation; nextgen; ngad
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To: Vlad The Inhaler

Thanks for your post, Mr. Xi.

(Joking, but not.)


21 posted on 09/16/2020 4:07:06 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: mrsmith

“that isn’t advisable in a day of drones”

Maybe the new fighter is pilot-less. Maybe the term Drone will not be used for these new fighters.


22 posted on 09/16/2020 4:31:12 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: Does so

Four letter words first!


23 posted on 09/16/2020 4:34:18 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: cba123

Reminds me of the joke about planes of the future, with a dog and a pilot.

The dog is there to bite the pilot if he touches anything.
The pilot is there to feed the dog.


24 posted on 09/16/2020 4:37:09 AM PDT by JohnnyP (Thinking is hard work (I stole that from Rush).)
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To: Fresh Wind

Does it look like a Tic-Tac?


I had the same thought. What a surprise that would be, eh?


25 posted on 09/16/2020 4:43:38 AM PDT by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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To: Spktyr

Something that’s more concerning - if the Air Force itself built this instead of putting it out for bid... just how horrifically bad is it going to be?


The Air Force does not build anything itself. Most likely done by the modern equivalent of Lockheed Skunkworks (whatever they call that these days).


26 posted on 09/16/2020 4:46:26 AM PDT by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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To: Vlad The Inhaler
Flight test of their new steath X-wing fighter


27 posted on 09/16/2020 4:47:42 AM PDT by Bommer (I'm a MAGA-Deplorian! It is the way! It is the only way!)
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To: Spktyr

if the Air Force itself built this instead of putting it out for bid... just how horrifically bad is it going to be?


You just know it will have every bell and whistle/light and dial/screen and switch possible. Moreover how horrifyingly expensive will it be? Certain it will cost more the the 22, and like the 22 won’t be exportable, due to likely tech concerns, will they build 189, 150, 100, or only 50? Will more than 15 be mission capable?


28 posted on 09/16/2020 4:48:10 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: cba123
More here:
The U.S. Air Force Has Secretly Flown A Demonstrator For Its Next-Generation Fighter
Little is known about the actual aircraft or who even built it, but it's a sign that the next-generation fighter effort is rapidly accelerating.
By Thomas Newdick September 15, 2020

It may be unmanned ... manufacture and designation of the NGAD fighter is unknown

29 posted on 09/16/2020 4:55:00 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: rbg81

Maybe. It remains to be seen.


30 posted on 09/16/2020 4:55:05 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: cba123

Good bet the Chicoms are right on it.


31 posted on 09/16/2020 5:23:26 AM PDT by kenmcg (tHE WHOLE)
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To: cba123
The usual sloppy reporting:

"That line of production has brought criticism to the Pentagon, most recently in the Lockheed Martin-made F-35, which lawmakers have long"

Lockheed-Martin has now brought the per-plane cost below that of a new F15E, and significantly reduced maintenance costs. Most of which is due to Trump's pushback.

32 posted on 09/16/2020 5:38:46 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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To: dp0622

Your assumption fails to say anything about those urban kids who are culled from recruitment because they simply lack the intellect and education to be effective on board the ship with the drone killing weapon


33 posted on 09/16/2020 5:44:17 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies.....all of them)
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To: mrsmith

Disagree.

Having meat in the seat is still invaluable in actual combat. Proven over and over again.

Drones are fine, but they are a tool. Just like manned fighter aircraft.


34 posted on 09/16/2020 5:47:33 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: PIF

The production is rapid because maybe they don’t have to be concerned over pilot safety.


35 posted on 09/16/2020 5:53:07 AM PDT by odawg
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To: dp0622

The Officer ranks, in my experience, were mostly White and upper middle class. (in the USAF)
Poor minorities are largely in the enlisted ranks of the Army.
I believe the USMC is the “Whitest” of all the branches.


36 posted on 09/16/2020 5:55:18 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: cba123

Remember they were running sorties with the F117 before anyone knew it existed.

Betcha the cost per copy on this new one is a joke.


37 posted on 09/16/2020 6:00:26 AM PDT by lurk
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To: Spktyr

The Air Force didn’t build it literally. They had it built secretly.


38 posted on 09/16/2020 6:05:44 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Vermont Lt

Hopefully - but even if that is the case, one has to wonder who designed it and what goals they thought they were meeting. There’s a reason that normal acquisition is through request-for-proposals that becomes competitive bidding and not single sourcing.


39 posted on 09/16/2020 6:14:14 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Fresh Wind

bear me to it!


40 posted on 09/16/2020 6:21:26 AM PDT by Theophilus
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