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Black newborns 3 times more likely to die when looked after by White doctors
CNN ^ | 18 August 2020 | Rob Picheta

Posted on 08/18/2020 4:51:05 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

(CNN)Black newborn babies in the United States are more likely to survive childbirth if they are cared for by Black doctors, but three times more likely to die when looked after by White doctors, a study has found. The mortality rate of Black newborns shrunk by between 39% and 58% when Black physicians took charge of the birth, according to the research, which laid bare how shocking racial disparities in human health can affect even the first hours of a person's life.

By contrast, the mortality rate for White babies was largely unaffected by the doctor's race. The findings support previous research, which has shown that, while infant mortality rates have fallen in recent decades, Black children remain significantly more likely to die early than their White counterparts.

Researchers from George Mason University analyzed data capturing 1.8 million hospital births in Florida between 1992 and 2015 for the new study, which was published Monday in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America, also known as PNAS. When cared for by White physicians, Black newborns were about three times more likely to die in the hospital than White newborns, the researchers found.

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To: freeandfreezing; MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Thank you looking at the study, or at least the appendix that doesn't require forking over $10 for the full study. There is a LOT of good baseline data and headline model results in the appendix, but there are scores of other effects where neither the coefficients or p-values aren't disclosed.

The average infant mortality rate ("Patient Expired") of 0.3% is the same for white patients regardless if the doctor is black or white. If the patient and doctor are both black, the infant mortality rate is slightly/10bp higher, i.e. 0.4%, but the fatality rate is a much larger 0.9% when the patient is black and the doctor is white. That last/highest mortality group also has a higher-than-average incidence of Medicare patients and longer stay in the hospital. Interestingly, the black doctor and black patient group has more female doctors, lower length of stay, and more self-pay patients than the higher mortality black patient/white doctor group.

It is worth noting the r-squared values a very low but that may be due to their using a linear model vs a logit model.

Frankly, there are a lot of people jumping to a lot of conclusions. Frankly I need to spend more time with the data before rendering a verdict.

141 posted on 08/18/2020 9:23:36 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: caww

“Anther CNN article fueling the black rage as usual”

Yes, I call them “scab pickers”.

It’s the MO of the left. Look for the slightest grievance, or simply fabricate one, inflame it, magnify it, create a convenient “oppressor” (usually “the system” you’re trying to take down) enlist the useful idiots, and you’re on your way to the revolution.


142 posted on 08/18/2020 9:28:46 PM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care! Guilting you is how they control you.)
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To: aquila48

I’m not certain which is worse, that the left has that MO with the Media assistence, or that those who could stop it don’t.
And of course Congress is useless to the people all around. Like the UN it’s just a Money laudering operation.


143 posted on 08/18/2020 9:59:29 PM PDT by caww ( Trump - the most pro-life president in History !)
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To: aquila48

I’m not certain which is worse, that the left has that MO with the Media assistence, or that those who could stop it don’t.
And of course Congress is useless to the people all around. Like the UN it’s just a Money laudering operation.


144 posted on 08/18/2020 9:59:29 PM PDT by caww ( Trump - the most pro-life president in History !)
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To: Williams

This has to be one of the most evil racist stories perpetrated that I have ever seen


This is Palestinian antisemitic level stuff.


145 posted on 08/18/2020 10:02:56 PM PDT by cornfedcowboy
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Seems to me, that the communist's favorite group, Planned Parenthood and their founder, one dead Margret Sanger, are the group most likely to murder unborn black children because THAT IS WHAT Margret founded the damned baby murdering outfit FOR!!! The left loves PP because it KILLS unborn children. They cannot reach their goal of a "Sustainable 500 million people on the earth" without the unmitigated slaughter of unborn children by 2050, without murdering unborn black children. Sanger hated blacks and her abortion murder group used this avenue of culling out blacks with abortion!!!

PLEASE, please, please, black folks, pay attention to what the left is doing to your people and have been for 80 years now through PP!!! They don’t give a tinker’s damned about you EXCEPT at voting time. Then they promise you $200 extra bucks next month to vote for their baby murdering mob. AND THAT IS WHAT THE DIMOCRAT PARTY IS, THE PARTY OF BABY MURDERING THUGS AND GARBAGE GANGSTERS!!! PLEASE WAKE THE HELL UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh, and WHO gets to chose the SEVEN BILLION people who are culled out so they can reach this 500 million???? Oh, right, the RICH, COMMUNIST, SOCIALIST, Bill and Me-linda Gates, George Soros, Slick Dick Willie Klinton and his whore, homo wife Hillary, Algore, and the other rich, Hollyweird, leftist elites!!! Certainly NOT black citizens here OR in Africa!!! Half-breeds like Obammy will make the cut, and his fat @$$ed wife. Only the very rich leftist elites will make the cut. NOT you or I!!!

146 posted on 08/18/2020 10:13:39 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (Friends, are you prepared to meet the LORD? Do you KNOW Him? Time is running out.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
That has got to be a lie because who would compile that sort of statistic?   It defies logic.
147 posted on 08/18/2020 11:02:24 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Oh for heaven’s sakes! I have no words. It gets really old hearing white people being constantly made out to be the scum of the earth.


148 posted on 08/18/2020 11:13:12 PM PDT by KittyKares (Drain the Swamp)
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To: livius

In the hospital I work at in southern NJ I’d say about 98% of the doctor’s are all East Indian and Pakistani.


149 posted on 08/18/2020 11:30:47 PM PDT by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Can somebody post the picture of Goebbels?

Disgusting example of journalistic malpractice here.

150 posted on 08/18/2020 11:36:11 PM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it] today.)
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To: caww

“I’m not certain which is worse, that the left has that MO with the Media assistence, or that those who could stop it don’t.”

I’m afraid we have to look in the mirror to see who could stop it and doesn’t.


151 posted on 08/18/2020 11:36:35 PM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care! Guilting you is how they control you.)
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To: caww

“I’m not certain which is worse, that the left has that MO with the Media assistence, or that those who could stop it don’t.”

I’m afraid we have to look in the mirror to see who could stop it and doesn’t.


152 posted on 08/18/2020 11:36:35 PM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care! Guilting you is how they control you.)
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To: aquila48

...”I’m afraid we have to look in the mirror to see who could stop it and doesn’t”...

Oh I think folks are doing all they can. I know I am. How about you?


153 posted on 08/18/2020 11:54:40 PM PDT by caww ( Trump - the most pro-life president in History !)
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To: caww

“Oh I think folks are doing all they can. I know I am.”

Curious... what are you doing?


154 posted on 08/19/2020 12:03:49 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care! Guilting you is how they control you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

If they’re in a county hospital, the attending may be listed as Department Head Dr. Honkey, but the resident actually administering the care is probably from India or Pakistan. And furthermore, the actual figures are bogus, because they don’t state the number of infant mortalities total, and break it down to the number dying in neonatal wards as opposed to during the first month after birth, or compare them to white babies.

If there are three infant mortalities in Chicago in February under the care of a white doctor, but only two under the care of a black doctor, that’s not a statistic, it’s just a tragedy, to turn Stalin on his head.

Didn’t see the study, but taking an educated guess as to how it’s skewed to produce the result desired.


155 posted on 08/19/2020 12:23:58 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 ("SHUT UP!" he explained.)
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To: Bayard

They’re cops disguised as doctors, just trying to get ahead on their quota.


156 posted on 08/19/2020 12:25:14 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 ("SHUT UP!" he explained.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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So much for actually reading the article!

What % of Florida neonatologists (specialists who care for newborns) are Black, and are they more likely to practice in large medical centers or community hospitals? I would not be shocked if mortality of premature babies was higher in smaller community hospitals than in large medical centers.

I do know that despite the medical education establishment bending over backwards for the last 50-60 years, Blacks are still underrepresented in US medical school enrollment.

(I believe that this mostly represents the continuing dysfunction and failure of unionized urban pubic school systems.)

From what I could find, 70% of neonatologists are Caucasian, which suggests that Whites are also underrepresented (according to the US Census Bureau, 76.3% of the US population is White alone.) Whites represent 49.8% of the 2019-2020 US medical school enrollment and Blacks are 7.3% according to the AMA. Not surprisingly (to me, at least), Asians are 22.4% of US medical students and 5.9% of the US population.

157 posted on 08/19/2020 4:22:56 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("A conservative is a liberal who got mugged the night before" - Frank Rizzo)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

More on the abuse of statistics together with repealing the maxim that correlation is not causation.

My guess is that the correlation that the researchers desired and found is likely outweighed by the variables of the quality of the institution and quality of the doctors, and then compounded by the fact that there are likely more white doctors than black doctors to begin with.


158 posted on 08/19/2020 7:50:22 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Sooth2222

“I believe that this mostly represents the continuing dysfunction and failure of unionized urban pubic school systems.”

I believe it mostly reflects the malice and hatred in the heart of the American Negro.


159 posted on 08/19/2020 7:59:49 AM PDT by dsc (We are competing against Soros money poured onto a hive mentality.)
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To: DoodleBob
I only looked at the appendix, since I was more interested in the starting data than the author's analysis.

Understanding the causes of differences in outcomes for patients is important, and this kind of research if done correctly is useful. In this case it seems to me that some of the underlying assumptions may not be correct.

The distribution of infant mortality rates across the state of Florida is not uniform. High infant mortality rates are clustered in certain areas. Those areas tend to be rural, and often have a lot of poverty. Controlling for the effects of the unequal distribution of the high risk pregnancies that lead to infant deaths in the presence of an unequal geographic distribution of quality hospitals seems to require some kind of geographic modeling, not just a statewide model.

Here is a link to the Florida department of health infant death statistics by county. On that page you can select graphs using the "change grouping" control to see deaths by race over time on a per county basis.

Looking at the county level data it is clear that mortality rates for both black and white infants often vary quite a bit from the state average in the same direction. This suggests that the quality of health care, or the underlying health issues for the population are not simply race based.

160 posted on 08/19/2020 8:35:14 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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