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To: ClearCase_guy

> I think freedom of movement is pretty well established under the Constitution. I don’t think this will stand. <

Except at international borders, don’t you have to have probable cause to stop a car? As in the cop must believe that the driver probably committed a crime. I don’t think you can stop a car just for the hell of it.


56 posted on 08/05/2020 9:09:07 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Leaning Right

International travel is definitely different.

From Wikipedia:
Since the circuit court ruling in Corfield v. Coryell, 6 Fed. Cas. 546 (1823), freedom of movement has been judicially recognized as a fundamental Constitutional right. In Paul v. Virginia, 75 U.S. 168 (1869), the Court defined freedom of movement as “right of free ingress into other States, and egress from them.”


64 posted on 08/05/2020 9:15:45 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: Leaning Right
I don’t think you can stop a car just for the hell of it.

That should be the law, but the relentless efforts of those who love the tyranny of the state have created exemptions to that concept.

First it was drunk drivers. Many states have mandatory checkpoints for every driver.

And in most of the country near the borders, New York included, you can be forced to stop at checkpoints run by ICE and asked about your citizenship. In New England the area covered by that law is essentially everywhere. You can sit at a checkpoint in the middle of Vermont, many miles from the border, waiting for a federal agent to ask you questions. Needless to say any real smugglers are nowhere around, the millions of dollars spent on the roadblocks accomplish next to nothing.

79 posted on 08/05/2020 9:39:25 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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