Posted on 08/03/2020 9:46:38 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Yale epidemiology professor Dr. Harvey Risch and CNN host John Berman bickered over hydroxychloroquine on Monday during a heated discussion about the polarizing drug, which the president has hailed as a possible treatment for COVID-19.
Risch recently wrote an op-ed in support of hydroxychloroquine, but Dr. Anthony Fauci, Dr. Deborah Birx and other experts have dismissed the anti-malarial drug being used to combat coronavirus. Risch cited various studies that backed up his pro-hydroxychloroquine stance, but the host of CNN's "New Day" disagreed.
“None of those studies that you just cited are random placebo-controlled trials, what Dr. Fauci refers to as the gold standard,” Berman said, as the CNN on-screen chyron stated “Growing body of evidence shows hydroxychloroquine is ineffective.”
Risch responded: “That’s not actually correct. The problem with those randomized controlled trials, is they were trials done on the wrong people. They were trials done on low-risk people with low risks of hospitalization and mortality. You don’t do a study of prostate cancer with women... because nobody is gonna get the outcome.”
Risch said the studies were conducted on “very low-risk people who are not going to get hospitalized or die” from coronavirus.
“We don’t treat those people. We treat high-risk people,” Risch said.
Berman then accused Risch of being inconsistent compared to the op-ed, but the Yale epidemiologist disagreed and the interview grew contentious.
“You’re misstating what I said, I said it had to be in high-risk people,” Risch said. “As I’ve said, you have to treat the right people. You have to study the right people. Those studies did not study the right people, period. That’s the bottom line.”
Berman insisted the studies have included a wide range of participants.
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“Again, the question is,” a frustrated Berman continued, “Why haven’t any random, placebo-controlled trials showed benefit? Isn’t that a problem for an epidemiologist?”
“No,” Risch shot back. “In fact, the FDA has a huge history of drugs going into widespread use in the medical community for decades that have not been established in the basis of randomized controlled trials. Half of the chemotherapy drugs used in cancer were used without randomized controlled trials.”
Ping as per your request
Hmmmm.I thought we were supposed to rely on science?????I guess not when the libs want anti science to keep their narrative going....
From his official bio:
Dr. Harvey Risch is Professor of Epidemiology in the Department of Epidemiology and Public Health at the Yale School of Public Health and Yale School of Medicine. Dr. Risch received his MD degree from the University of California San Diego and PhD from the University of Chicago. After serving as a postdoctoral fellow in epidemiology at the University of Washington, Dr. Risch was a faculty member in epidemiology and biostatistics at the University of Toronto before coming to Yale.
And yet this CNN schmuck journ-o-list evidently thinks he’s smarter.
I have a question for that reporter. “If you had a deadly disease, and were chosen to participate in a program which could save your life, would you be content to be one of the poor slobs who get assigned the placebo?”
I know what my answer to that question would be.
The “professor” isn’t even bright enough to follow the narrative without question. He probably doesn’t even know that Trump is Hitler.
Science validates subjective observation, but that doesn't mean that subjective observation is wrong unless it has been scientifically validated. It's really just a way of proving (or disproving) in practice what we already have figured out in theory.
Bergman’s fighting out of his weight class.
Thanks for the ping.
Once upon a time, journalists would interview experts in order to uncover facts and inform the public.
Today, journalists are expected to browbeat the experts in an effort to push the Narrative, whether the expert agrees or not.
“Hmmmm.I thought we were supposed to rely on science?”
Only the correct “science”.
“No,” Risch shot back. “In fact, the FDA has a huge history of drugs going into widespread use in the medical community for decades that have not been established in the basis of randomized controlled trials. Half of the chemotherapy drugs used in cancer were used without randomized controlled trials.”
I never thought I would be so cynical but there is no other explanation. These people truly don’t want people to get better. They want as many people as possible to die. Try a vaccine that was rushed through - no problem! A cheap drug that has been in use for 65 years - too dangerous!
What is the standard treatment now for people who test positive?
Got this in email from CBN News today: (think we may have already had this article so just posting the link here).
COVID Doc Says Hydroxychloroquine ‘Highly Effective’ and Fears Are Overblown - Now FDA Chief Admits It Might Help
This is from a doctor I had not heard about....Dr. Tom Rogers from Tennessee. Video at link.
I wonder if the airports are still paying for the Crap News Network. .. seeing that travel is down?
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