Posted on 08/03/2020 7:06:21 AM PDT by Kaslin
“What difference at this point does it make?” with pic BUMP!
What we do know is that there are EVIL people in this world today and many of them are Americans.
George $oro$, Trey Billygoat Gates, Tony Wormhead Fauxi, Hillary we came we saw he died Clinton, Barack bitter clingers Obama, Joe dog-faced pony soldier Biden, etc., etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjsAy7HFeX0
Like I said. I had two uncles there. One in the Navy who was on the Missouri and the other in the Marines.
The one in the Marines said that they had been given manila envelopes to put all their belongings in and to write their last letters and turn them in. Said that after they found out that the Bombs were dropped, they managed to get hold of cases of beer and got so GD drunk they couldnt function for a week.
Smoke'm if you gotte'm.
We had nukes and used them to save American lives, the only ones we were concerned about.
PERIOD.
That picture is genuinely terrifying.
**The atomic attacks by the United States Army Air Force on the two Japanese cities undeniably were horrific tragedies.***
Bunkum. The only reason people boo-hoo about the A-bombs is it took only two bombs to kill so many people.
Had the US sent 100 planes with 40,000 pounds each of conventional bombs and killed just as many nothing would be said about it.
In fact, the US DID send out several bombing raids AFTER the A-bomb blasts, killing thousands and no one cries or even remembers about it.
yeah, it’s sort of funny.. when the time has come for something to be invented... it’s often gets invented several places at once.
The world is just LUCKY it was the US that did it first. If it had been Russia, or Japan or Germany... I can’t even imagine how bad things would of gotten for the world.
WW2 - justified or not?
Just because the big bad AR-15 bombs are scary doesn’t make them unique in war time compared to all the other destructive forces that were used (mustard gas, machine guns, tanks, firebombs, etc;).
Let alone the handwringing over modern weapons of war - cluster bombs, cruise missiles and depleted uranium ammunition (which is, oddly, considered just as dangerous as nuclear weapons)
Should they ever be used again? Dear God, I hope not and that’s probably the best reason for using them originally.
Lest we forget - Hitler was close on the heels of developing the atomic bombs as well AND had the V2 rockets to deliver them to the US and the USSR was right behind us.
If you wanna play armchair philosopher then you have to ask the question “is any war” justified? And that includes “good wars” like the civil war which is now being erased from US history as an inconvenient truth.
The fact of the matter is that humanity is violent, as any protests in Seattle and Portland and now Austin will readily demonstrate. Would BLM justify its use of a nuclear bomb?
You betcha.
A description of what an invasion of Japan actually would have entailed can be seen in Post 27 of http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3777953/posts
The attack on Pearl Harbor.......
....what is to debate?
The Atomic bomb has not been used since!
....so yes, it was a good deterrent.
Not at all, I’m with you. I knew you were being sarcastic. My apology for your thinking differently. What you did was highlight an attitude assumed by out political elites that is misguided and immoral. I was just emphasizing that government policies and decisions have a real impact on people’s lives and officials should not arrogantly make such decisions based on their own personal benefit and orbit.
Truman’s decision had a decided, lasting positive impact on many lives. It was a tragic decision that HAD to be made, and we are all better off for it. Even though tragic, it was the right thing to do. We maybe should not celebrate the tragic act itself, but we should celebrate the courage and the obvious moral evaluation and struggle that went into making it.
Thank you for the post. Sorry for the confusion.
My dad flew the Hump in the China-Burma-India Campaign. He returned to the Army as a civil engineer in Tokyo as a purchasing officer in the 1950s. We lived in Sagamihara and Yokohama 1951-1961 where I grew up.
Sagami and Yokohama still showed the scars of the bombing raids. Large sections of the city were simply vacant. Two doors down from our Yokohama house was a block of mostly broken concrete that our maid said had been a pharmaceutical plant. I picked up dozens of small glassine tubes littering the grounds at a pre-teen.
We traveled from Seattle to Yokohama via MSTS ships. Two weeks at sea each way...
Sorry that the sarcasm of my initial posting wasn't more obvious to you. I was, essentially, employing an argumentum ad absurdum.
Regards,
I refuse to judge the actions of that war, using 20:20 hindsight
Oh its that time of year again? When we do the annual hand wringing on the anniversary for the bombings of Nagasaki and Hiroshima?
Me too. My dad was in the Navy, training for the invasion of Japan. People today are clueless as to the sacrifices made during WWII. I remember my mom telling me their weekly gasoline ration was three (3) gallons.
OMG isn’t that Peter Strzok’s mother?
As one who was around when the bomb was dropped, I can state unequivocally that it was an extremely popular act with the American people.
Where’s the “Not this Shit Again” guy?
Without a doubt justified. One, the two atomic bombs ended the war, saving many lives that were being lost day-to-day. Secondly and more importantly, their use made the invasion of Japan unnecessary. An invasion that would have resulted in casualties in the hundreds of thousands for The Allies, and millions for the Japanese.
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