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The land with no face masks: Holland's top scientists say there's no solid evidence coverings work and warn they could even damage the fight against Covid-19
The Guardian ^ | 8/1/2020 | Ian Birrell

Posted on 08/02/2020 7:58:23 AM PDT by Triple

...Amsterdam, something felt strange in this world swept by fear and pandemic. There was laughter coming from barges sliding along the famous canals, clusters of cyclists clogged the streets, shoppers dipped into chic boutiques, the barber shops seemed busy and cafes served couples chatting over coffee.

I heard many voices of tourists in bars and restaurants, while even the seedier sides of this celebrated Dutch city had people strolling through them. It took me a moment to realise what was so weird. Then it struck me. It felt like I had stepped back in time, returning to the pre-pandemic normality of a bustling city filled with human beings whose faces were not covered by cloth. ... For while 120 countries in the world, including much of Europe, have ordered citizens to wear masks in public places to prevent the spread of Covid-19, the Dutch are doing things differently.

The nation's top scientists, having examined key data and research, have declared there is no firm evidence to back the use of face coverings. Indeed, they argue that wearing the wretched things may actually hamper the fight against disease.

While 120 countries in the world ordered citizens to wear masks in public places to prevent the spread of Covid-19, the Dutch are doing things differently. Pictured, people enjoying a drink in Amsterdam +4 While 120 countries in the world ordered citizens to wear masks in public places to prevent the spread of Covid-19, the Dutch are doing things differently. Pictured, people enjoying a drink in Amsterdam 'Face masks in public places are not necessary, based on all the current evidence,' said Coen Berends, spokesman for the National Institute for Public Health and the Environment. 'There is no benefit and there may even be negative impact.'

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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KEYWORDS: covid19; fauci; scamdemic; shamdemic
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Masks - tools of control or true medical benefit to the wearer?

Both?

1 posted on 08/02/2020 7:58:23 AM PDT by Triple
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To: Triple

Thank you for posting the truth.

Masks are the pre-curser to their “vaccine”. Sad to see so many sheep.

I don’t wear a mask and will not take the “vaccine”.


2 posted on 08/02/2020 8:01:41 AM PDT by HypatiaTaught (Ovid- A Sheep. Baa Baa)
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To: Triple
The nation's top scientists, having examined key data and research, have declared there is no firm evidence to back the use of face coverings. Indeed, they argue that wearing the wretched things may actually hamper the fight against disease.

Its truly frightening how quickly people submitted to the authority of their "Masters" in government. Talk about world wide snowflakes.

3 posted on 08/02/2020 8:02:08 AM PDT by Don Corleone (The truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth)
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To: Triple

Masks are a lie. Most Americans are just too stupid to realize it.


4 posted on 08/02/2020 8:04:11 AM PDT by Bell407Pilot
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To: Triple
Wow - look. Normal people.


We can't have that in our country.

You would be physically assaulted by Karen Mask Nazis, arrested by the police, fined thousands of dollars, and banned for life from flying on airlines or entering business establishments.


5 posted on 08/02/2020 8:05:04 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: Triple; Travis McGee

TM, have you seen this? What are your thoughts?


6 posted on 08/02/2020 8:05:45 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Triple
It felt like I had stepped back in time, returning to the pre-pandemic normality of a bustling city filled with human beings whose faces were not covered by cloth.

Come to Coeur d'Alene, Idaho. We have a mask mandate, but it is ignored by everybody. We ate downtown on Friday and we saw exactly one mask and probably saw 500 people on the main street.

7 posted on 08/02/2020 8:06:04 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Triple

I thought the masks prevented contaminated droplets from spreading to other people?

My CNN watching liberal, ex-friend, screeched this on the phone to me all the time.

A couple of weeks ago she sent me text messages about the “peaceful protesters” here in Portland (after we had agreed to not talk politics) and I decided I had been quiet long enough and sent her photos from Twitter of what’s going on. Haven’t heard a peep from her since.

But - is it not true about the droplets?


8 posted on 08/02/2020 8:08:25 AM PDT by Aria
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To: Triple

Bkmrk


9 posted on 08/02/2020 8:09:24 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: Triple

What it says on the backs of the boxes of facemasks we buy at the store: Not for use in healthcare settings.

Nuff said.


10 posted on 08/02/2020 8:09:36 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: Triple

Masks:

Most cloth masks are grossly inadequate to filter.

Most people do not wear their mask correctly: under nose, on beard, hanging from left or right ear...

Many masks like those sold for a lot of money (N95) when this started do absolutely nothing! They have an exhaust valve and if someone coughs or sneezes it is expelled unfiltered.

When masks get wet, they stop working properly. That happens after a mere 20 minutes of use (your exhaled breath contains moisture). Do you or the people you see around you change them out every 20 minutes?

How many people wash their cloth masks constantly?

Now I can talk about all the potential risks masks pose, i.e. the filth people are breathing, or how folks with asthma and other conditions could get in trouble. But right now, no one cares about that.


The mask = adult pacifier

It makes people feel in control and like they can “do something.” It makes people feel safer. It’s the simple solution politicians and government agencies always look for (example Obama’s answer was to inflate tires when asked about our energy policy). We need simple and easy answers, and the mask is it.

It’s all BS, but when it’s emotions vs. rational thought, feelings always win.


11 posted on 08/02/2020 8:10:59 AM PDT by Red6
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To: HypatiaTaught

Masks are the pre-curser to their “vaccine”. Sad to see so many sheep.

I don’t wear a mask and will not take the “vaccine”.

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Ditto


12 posted on 08/02/2020 8:11:13 AM PDT by billyboy15
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To: Triple

Yes... But Dr. Fauci and WHO know they work... That’s whey they said... ‘Don’t wear mask’ for the first three months of this nonsense... So more people would die while we were completely locked down.


13 posted on 08/02/2020 8:13:07 AM PDT by jerod (Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: Aria

There are droplets and aerosols. Even cheesy masks protect against droplets. Not so much against aerosols. And since people with WuFlu don’t seem to hock a lotta loogies, I’d be more worried about aerosols.

And the masks available to the general public aren’t that much better than nothing with aerosols.


14 posted on 08/02/2020 8:13:19 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: SkyPilot

‘You would be physically assaulted by Karen Mask Nazis, arrested by the police, fined thousands of dollars, and banned for life from flying on airlines or entering business establishments.’

and a handful of people that post on here would be cheering your misfortune...


15 posted on 08/02/2020 8:13:28 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: HypatiaTaught

I join with you when I say that I will not wear a mask or face covering nor will I take the vaccine.


16 posted on 08/02/2020 8:14:29 AM PDT by lakecumberlandvet (Appeasement never works.)
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To: Triple

I really enjoyed my time in Holland, Luxembourg, Belgium, and Iceland. If I’m going to live in a Socialist country, it won’t be the US. It’s becoming Balkanized.


17 posted on 08/02/2020 8:16:30 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: Triple

To put this whole controversy to bed, make HCQ and Zinc Sulfate OTC drugs and if someone has a cough and/or fever, begin a regimen of medication immediately, Pandemic over. Having to wait to get tested and wait for the results is what is killing most infected patients but its making Big Pharma billions. Follow the money.


18 posted on 08/02/2020 8:16:39 AM PDT by chopperk
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I will move if this pandemic/over-reaction continues.

Coeur d’Alene is on a relatively short list of potential places.

Other areas: Eastern Tennessee, South Dakota, South Carolina...

Suggestions welcome.

Kids actually attending school under normal circumstances is a big issue for me.

TIA


19 posted on 08/02/2020 8:17:41 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: chopperk

Agree!

...Sanity...

HCQ + shut down he pandemics in the dirty overcrowded slums of Mumbai.

If it can do that...in a first world country it would end this whole thing in 3 weeks..


20 posted on 08/02/2020 8:20:27 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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