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Myths the Media Perpetuate About Gun Control
Real Clear Politics ^ | August 1, 2020 | John R. Lott, Jr.

Posted on 08/01/2020 9:53:05 AM PDT by rogerantone1

The push to disarm Americans, such as Pamela and Mark McCloskey of St. Louis, stems from the belief that disarming the public will make us safer. But those beliefs arise from myths perpetrated by the media.

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To: rogerantone1

Nothing new. We’ve seen these “studies” since 1966 when Carl Bakal published his ‘’The Right To Bear Arms’’ anti-gun screed.

Interesting that when that book was released in paper back, the name was changed to read NO Right to Keep And Bear Arms.

There was another book published about ten or fifteen years ago which was so inaccurate it was withdrawn by the publisher. Don’t remember the name but the author’s name was Belsadies or something like that.


21 posted on 08/01/2020 11:34:26 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

It will be a while before I am able to try it out.

They were almost out of all types of ammo. I am almost sure that I have a couple of hundred rounds stored but with my last move a lot of stuff like that got stored in a large room which is attached to the house but not heated or AC.

It has been out there for 20 years and to top it off, I am not even certain I have it.


22 posted on 08/01/2020 11:34:56 AM PDT by yarddog ( For I am persuaded.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

That sounds like the professor from Emory who published a book about how almost no one in early America was armed.

Another professor who had studied the same type of info let it be known that it was inaccurate. I think he eventually was fired by the university. It strikes me that he was awarded the Pulitzer Prize but I could be wrong.


23 posted on 08/01/2020 11:39:38 AM PDT by yarddog ( For I am persuaded.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

That was a 1996 book by Michael A. Bellesiles claiming low gun ownership in 18th century America. It received a Bancroft Prize from Columbia University but then was found to be full of nonexistent research and riddled with inconsistencies that were too much even for a politically friendly faculty establishment.

The prize was rescinded, Bellesiles resigned from Emory, and according to Wikipedia, “was working as a bartender while continuing to write history.”


24 posted on 08/01/2020 12:10:59 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("Pres. Trump doesn't wear glasses. That's because he's got 2020.")
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To: rogerantone1

It’s Patricia not Pamela. Just how hard is that? Fake news.


25 posted on 08/01/2020 12:56:38 PM PDT by TrueFact (It's always darkest right before the dawn.)
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To: lgjhn23

“I’ve heard that the communists in the House have voted to Red Flag all military personnel in that bill. INSANE.”

I have no idea what that means. It sounds like Congress wants to take arms from military members, or is this another 4chan joke?


26 posted on 08/01/2020 2:58:37 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Teach a man to fish and he'll steal your gear and sell it)
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To: PROCON
The push to disarm Americans, such as Pamela and Mark McCloskey of St. Louis, stems from the belief that disarming the public will make us safer.

While I have a great deal of respect for John Lott this assertion of his is totally wrong. The fanatic desire by Democrats to disarm us is based on their knowledge of history. Tyranny is much harder to implement against an armed populace. And everything the Democrats say and do leads me to believe that if they get the chance they will fundamentally change (as per the turd) the USA to something like a cross between North Korea and Venezuela. They would rather rule an impoverished hellhole than live in but not rule a prosperous free nation. There isn’t a single one of them I’d trust to clean a toilet let alone direct a country.

27 posted on 08/01/2020 3:23:30 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga
While I have a great deal of respect for John Lott this assertion of his is totally wrong.

Well now, apparently you were keeping with long held FReeper protocol and commenting before reading the article.

The push to disarm Americans, such as Pamela and Mark McCloskey of St. Louis, stems from the belief that disarming the public will make us safer.

The next sentence is:

But those beliefs arise from myths perpetrated by the media.

In context:

The push to disarm Americans, such as Pamela and Mark McCloskey of St. Louis, stems from the belief that disarming the public will make us safer. But those beliefs arise from myths perpetrated by the media.

So you and Mr. Lott agree.

28 posted on 08/01/2020 3:42:29 PM PDT by PROCON (Molon Labe)
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To: PROCON

I read the sentence and the whole article. Irrespective of the myths promulgated by the media he states that the belief is to make us is safer as supported by media lies. Regardless of the media’s dishonest reasons does anyone with more than two functional brain cells think the media believe their own horse manure? So if they’re lying (and they are) and they know they’re lying ( and how could they not know since they either make their stories up completely or pick and choose what supports their narrative) then they can’t possibly believe that a disarmed populace is safer. So the perpetuators of the myth can’t possibly believe it.

Now maybe the average nitwit in the Democrat base (keeping in mind that half of the population is even dumber than average) actually believes this crap but most in my exposure (and I lived in NYC for a couple of years) to antigunners most just want to stick it to the people who aren’t afraid to own guns.


29 posted on 08/01/2020 4:10:46 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: rogerantone1
90% of current, or graduated college libs/leftists think you can still mail order rifles just like Oswald in 1963.


30 posted on 08/01/2020 4:56:30 PM PDT by Lockbar (Vlad the Impailer had all the answers.)
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To: from occupied ga
The typical dumb-ass non-gun owner has been so brainwashed by the media elite's gun lies that they do believe less guns mean less crime.

I have high school (from 50 years ago), FB friends like that, highly educated but still believe this myth, and they firmly believe that no civilian should be allowed to own any firearm, the 2nd Amendment be damned! If they don't like firearms then nobody should own them.

And they have unfriended me when they find out about my firm support of the 2nd Amendment and the gun range pictures I post. Highly educated but with the soul of a fascist.

The media on the other hand do believe that banning guns will make them safer....from US when we have finally had enough!

Hell, our Forefathers would have used every lamppost in DC to hang the criminal politicians by now, were they alive today.

I know I've gotten slightly off of track here/rant off.

31 posted on 08/01/2020 4:58:28 PM PDT by PROCON (Molon Labe)
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To: sergeantdave

No Sir. I don’t believe it’s any kind of a joke.
The GOA has the details of it posted. Like you, I’m not sure what to make of it all:
https://gunowners.org/na07292020/


32 posted on 08/01/2020 5:20:30 PM PDT by lgjhn23 (Libs are a virus.....the DemoVirus!!)
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To: Lockbar

Those German made Mausers both 91 and 98-09 were works of art. Never to be seen again, at least produced in the millions.


33 posted on 08/01/2020 5:27:04 PM PDT by yarddog ( For I am persuaded.)
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To: yarddog

I forgot to say Argentine Mausers but also any of them produced in the late 1900’s until at least WWI. Those made by DWM, Ludwig Loewe, Mauser and the Swedish and Belgian ones too.


34 posted on 08/01/2020 5:31:16 PM PDT by yarddog ( For I am persuaded.)
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To: lgjhn23

The article is incoherent and makes zero connection to red flag laws and military personnel. It’s Saturday night and everyone at GOA is drunk. That’s my take. Wouldn’t be the first time in history that the watchtower guards drank too much and passed out.


35 posted on 08/01/2020 6:05:55 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Teach a man to fish and he'll steal your gear and sell it)
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To: yarddog

$199? You stole it!


36 posted on 08/01/2020 6:28:31 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Where do you find the word "except" in the 2nd Amendment?)
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To: Lockbar

I’ve seen many of those ads. They are from 1960 or so when the minimum wage was $1 an hour so it all washes out. Except that you could get them delivered by your local postman with no problems.


37 posted on 08/01/2020 6:38:04 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Where do you find the word "except" in the 2nd Amendment?)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I go tomorrow to pay for it. They phoned after I got home to tell me it has been approved. I did have to pay a $5 fee today.

I can’t pick up the gun until Wednesday. I really do wish it had a 1:9 twist tho.

Florida is generally gun friendly but this waiting period crap seemed to go through without much opposition.


38 posted on 08/01/2020 6:40:47 PM PDT by yarddog ( For I am persuaded.)
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To: rogerantone1

The push to disarm Americans, such as Pamela and Mark McCloskey of St. Louis, stems from the belief that disarming the public will make us safer.


Actually, that incident was about making violent protesters allied with the DA feel safer - not the populace as a whole - and to further intimidate those who have contrary positions to that DA.


39 posted on 08/01/2020 6:56:40 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: PROCON

Lott is saying they are doing what they are doing because of one reason, and are merely mistaken as a method of achieving it.

Gardner’s actions have nothing to do with making the populace as a whole safer. She is doing what she is doing for very different reasons.


40 posted on 08/01/2020 7:01:44 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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