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California has 6 extra representatives thanks to people in their state illegally, report says
Independent Sentinel ^ | July 24, 2020 | M. Dowling

Posted on 07/24/2020 2:25:11 PM PDT by artichokegrower

President Donald Trump signed an executive order on Tuesday to prevent illegal immigrants from being counted for the purposes of redrawing congressional districts after the 2020 census.

(Excerpt) Read more at independentsentinel.com ...


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If just two California congressional house seats could be gotten rid of, Maxine Waters and Adam Schiff, I would be happy.
1 posted on 07/24/2020 2:25:11 PM PDT by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower

Bookmark


2 posted on 07/24/2020 2:28:08 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I Love Bull Markets!)
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To: artichokegrower

God bless President Donald Trump. Seriesly.


3 posted on 07/24/2020 2:29:03 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: artichokegrower

Violates the voting rights of citizens in that their votes are diluted by illegals.


4 posted on 07/24/2020 2:29:07 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: artichokegrower
Break it up. Now.


5 posted on 07/24/2020 2:32:47 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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Nice to know that Contra Costa is included in the “New California”. Wonder if I’ll need a passport to get to my job in a neighboring “Old California” county?


6 posted on 07/24/2020 2:35:02 PM PDT by Ratman0823 (Today's news is all about the Leftist's "narrative". If it doesn't fit, the sheeple don't see it.)
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To: artichokegrower; LS; SaveFerris; NFHale; DarthVader; GOPsterinMA; BillyBoy; Impy; fieldmarshaldj

Why this wasn’t fixed after the First Civil War. i.e. “persons” opposed to “citizens” being counted for the census is hopelessly beyond me.


7 posted on 07/24/2020 2:36:35 PM PDT by KC_Lion
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Jefferson: a state beyond but within our border - oregonlive.com
8 posted on 07/24/2020 2:37:30 PM PDT by KC_Lion
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To: artichokegrower

Don’t forget Ted Lieu.
And the wonderful Karen Bass.


9 posted on 07/24/2020 2:42:26 PM PDT by TexasM1A
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Not just illegals reduce House representation. 14th §2 says its reduced in proportion to those participating in rebellion or crime.


10 posted on 07/24/2020 2:46:50 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (waiting for the tweets to hatch)
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To: KC_Lion
Why this wasn’t fixed after the First Civil War. i.e. “persons” opposed to “citizens” being counted for the census is hopelessly beyond me.

The issue isn't just citizenship.

The question is, are residents who are paying for services through their taxes entitled to any representation?

There are reasonable arguments on both sides.

11 posted on 07/24/2020 2:48:03 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: TexasM1A

And the queen of them all Nancy Pelosi


12 posted on 07/24/2020 2:50:27 PM PDT by artichokegrower
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To: BenLurkin

There are places along the coast between Salinas and Los Angeles that are not lost to the Left. For their protection, I will not name them.


13 posted on 07/24/2020 2:51:13 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy (;-,)
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To: semimojo
I reject that premise wholeheartedly.

Representatives should be for citizens only.

If you are not a citizen, than you are only visiting and do not permanently belong here.

If you plan on staying permanently, you need to get citizenship.

14 posted on 07/24/2020 2:55:22 PM PDT by KC_Lion
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To: semimojo; KC_Lion

IMHO, the issue is completely about citizenship — and applies to any nation.

There may be instances where your argument about taxation and representation applies at the local level — but, not nationally.

If representation for tax-paying illegal immigrants — what about illegal immigrants who don’t pay taxes? If you have to pay a tax to get representation, what about those citizens who don’t pay taxes? Isn’t representation a birthright for citizens?

Put another way — how much does an American [or other nation’s] citizenship cost? What level of tax-paying (price) should entitle one to representation?

Clearly, citizenship is a thing apart from taxes paid.


15 posted on 07/24/2020 3:05:08 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: BenLurkin

I’m afraid at this point, the blue California includes San Diego.


16 posted on 07/24/2020 3:07:43 PM PDT by Mr. Blond
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To: KC_Lion

That map is a little dated, I have seen “State of Jefferson” signs on the East side of CA as far South as Mariposa County. Also would have to compete for Southern Oregon with the newer “Greater Idaho” movement:

Map:
http://www.greateridaho.org/the_downloads/2020/main/Greater_Idaho_Proposal.pdf

Site: http://greateridaho.org


17 posted on 07/24/2020 3:11:18 PM PDT by Drago
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To: BenLurkin

The state line is a block and a half from me and runs on a wall between two houses. LA and Orange County


18 posted on 07/24/2020 3:13:30 PM PDT by BigEdLB (BigedLB, Russian BOT, At your service)
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To: Mr. Blond

I think Santa Clara County should be there too.


19 posted on 07/24/2020 3:15:42 PM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (Posting from deep within enemy territory - San Jose, CA)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

https://www.loc.gov/teachers/classroommaterials/presentationsandactivities/presentations/elections/founders-and-the-vote.html


20 posted on 07/24/2020 3:18:37 PM PDT by rolling_stone (tshf)
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