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Trump may intervene in case of St. Louis couple wielding guns at protesters, Missouri governor said
Fox News ^ | July 15 2020 | Vandana Rambaran

Posted on 07/15/2020 7:02:42 AM PDT by knighthawk

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To: zerosix; All
The couple's only means of protection was taken from them, armed black thugs appeared inside their gated community nearby the couple’s home (knowing now the couple is unarmed); you think President Trump is “interfering” in the Mo. Gov.’s preview.

Should a Trump just wait until the couple attempts to call 911 go unanswered, after being shot, maybe fatally?

It is not a "Trump or nothing" defense.

The couple can still obtain guns.

They can hire help.

They can accept volunteer help.

Lots of options. The Governor could even detail a couple of state troopers to stay at the couple's home (seems overkill).

Counter protests at the Prosecutor's home might be productive. Best if it can be a BLM protest...

President Trump can give moral support.

One of the most effective things the couple could do is set up multiple redundant surveillance cameras to record everything on their property. At the moment, the husband is doing a good job of showing the totalitarian nature of the left, and the political nature of this Soros backed prosecutor.

That is very important, overall. Probably more important than the house being attacked.

They should move all their portable, important private property to other locations, as a precaution.

61 posted on 07/15/2020 8:56:38 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain
You do know how long it takes to legally purchase a gun in MO, right?

You also know there’s a problem if you attempt to legally purchase a gun in MO if there is a prosecution against you for........using a weapon, right?

62 posted on 07/15/2020 9:12:04 AM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: Alberta's Child

7 is exactly right. 18 USC 242. If that DA does anything to the couple, then arrest her.


63 posted on 07/15/2020 9:18:34 AM PDT by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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To: Vermont Lt

Do us a favor and STFU! This is war.


64 posted on 07/15/2020 9:19:06 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: LittleBillyInfidel
said, "No! I want to see that cranial deformity that is their D.A. follow through with her tyrannical prosecution! I want that crap on her fascist record..."

exactly. If he loses as he is a Democrat attorney there could be no denying these libs are fascists.

65 posted on 07/15/2020 9:20:24 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: zerosix; All
You do know how long it takes to legally purchase a gun in MO, right?

Yes I do. Legally, it takes the time to find someone willing to sell you a gun, and then exchange the money.

50 people have offered to *give* an AR-type rifle to the McCloskys.

You also know there’s a problem if you attempt to legally purchase a gun in MO if there is a prosecution against you for........using a weapon, right?

Yes, I know that. Actually, it is a federal law for being under indictment for a felony. But no indictment has been released, yet.

It may be soon, but not yet.

66 posted on 07/15/2020 9:23:25 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Vermont Lt

OMG! Our President has got your panties all twisted simply because he is looking out for the rights of a fellow American.


67 posted on 07/15/2020 9:28:25 AM PDT by Colo9250 (Today's Joke, A.G. Barr is on the job)
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To: zerosix
The "under indictment" prohibition on gun possession is from Federal law. Missouri law does not prohibit someone who is under indictment from possessing a firearm.

There is a strong case the Federal "under indictment" prohibition is unconstitutional, as it is a prior restraint, before being convicted of any crime.

The Missouri prosecutor does not have the authority to prosecute federal crimes, as far as I can tell. It would be nice to have an attorney who practices in the field chime in on this.

68 posted on 07/15/2020 9:37:43 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: DoodleDawg
Trump has no authority to intervene in those.

The feds intervene in state and local crimes all the time.

Take for instances all the police officers charged federally on a regular basis because the feds feel the state is not prosecuting them enough for civil rights violations.

A prosecutor is no different and subject to the same federal jurisdiction.

The second amendment is a constitutional right and the local prosecutor has no authority to ignore it. He is breaking the law.

The left has been hammering us for decades using civil rights as a method to attack the right. It time we give them a taste of their own BS.

69 posted on 07/15/2020 9:42:17 AM PDT by usurper ( version)
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To: Politically Correct

“Trump could direct the DOJ to charge and arrest the circuit attorney, the judge and the police chief on denial of rights under color of law.”

Is our DOJ up to that task or is it sill full of swamp critters?


70 posted on 07/15/2020 9:45:51 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Lurker

“The Governor can issue a blanket pardon today.

L”
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Ahhhh... for what crime exactly?


71 posted on 07/15/2020 9:48:58 AM PDT by House Atreides (It is not a HOAX but it IS CERTAINLY A PRETEXT)
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To: House Atreides

pretty clear to me where certain governors intend to take those that have the nerve to exercise their God granted rights to self-defense


72 posted on 07/15/2020 9:51:41 AM PDT by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible")
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To: usurper
Take for instances all the police officers charged federally on a regular basis because the feds feel the state is not prosecuting them enough for civil rights violations.

In that case they charge them with federal crimes. They don't interfere with whatever state charges involved. Are you suggesting there is a federal crime they should be charged with?

A prosecutor is no different and subject to the same federal jurisdiction.

No. State prosecutors charge for state crimes. Federal prosecutors charge for federal crimes. One does not have control over the other.

The second amendment is a constitutional right and the local prosecutor has no authority to ignore it. He is breaking the law.

This is not a Second Amendment question. The McCloskey's have not been charged with a crime as yet but say, for the sake of argument, they're charged with unlawful use of a weapon. That's a felony punishable by up to four years in state prison and a fine. Where does the 2nd Amendment play into that and how can Trump intervene in a local felony arrest?

73 posted on 07/15/2020 9:59:49 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: AAABEST

They’re much worse - because they’re betrayers and the enemy from within.


I’ve been trying to tell people this for years, they don’t listen.


74 posted on 07/15/2020 10:24:48 AM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: DesertRhino
This DA is clear and deliberately violating the civil rights of that couple for the benefit of BLM and rioters. Trump can literally prosecute her for violating their civil rights.

Do this two or three times and those Soros-backed DAs will fold like a cheap card table. Mebbe even once would do the trick. These posers are gutless.

75 posted on 07/15/2020 10:27:42 AM PDT by Oatka
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To: Lurker

The Governor has hidden, shaking in a closet during this whole situation.


76 posted on 07/15/2020 12:00:36 PM PDT by Midwesterner53
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To: DoodleDawg

“how can Trump intervene in a local felony arrest?”

18USC242.

L


77 posted on 07/15/2020 12:06:14 PM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Lurker
18USC242

Doesn't apply if no rights are deprived.

78 posted on 07/15/2020 12:25:46 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

Malicious prosecution is one.

L


79 posted on 07/15/2020 12:27:37 PM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: DoodleDawg
Where does the 2nd Amendment play into that and how can Trump intervene in a local felony arrest?

Its called deprivation of rights under color of authority. The home owners had every right under the second amendment to possess and use their firearms to protect them selves.

The prosecutor is violating those rights by prosecuting them for exorcising those rights.

Its no different than a state passing a law impeding peoples right to vote.

All I am saying is that the 2nd amendment is just as much a civil right as all the other ones. Just because the DOJ has never focused on or enforced its provisions does not mean they can't.

80 posted on 07/15/2020 12:37:14 PM PDT by usurper ( version)
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