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To: Eleutheria5; Rurudyne
Yes, as others have opined, it isn't out of thin air, and this is a good decision, because when November rolls around, there will be the almost unanimous chorus from the left that the electors "do what the founders intended them to do, to vote their conscience, not what the electorate wants them to do".

No kidding. That's laughable, the Left talking about what the Founders intended.

You hear this every single election where a Republican wins on election night, and when the ballots are to be cast a month later on the second Wednesday in December, you hear this constantly leading up to it. Maybe this will finally put the kibosh on that.

Now, as Rurudyne pointed out, we have to stop this move to have states give their electoral votes to whoever wins the popular election.

From Wikipedia if you aren't familiar:
"The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, (NPVIC) is an agreement among a group of U.S. states and the District of Columbia to award all their electoral votes to whichever presidential candidate wins the overall popular vote in the 50 states and the District of Columbia. The compact is designed to ensure that the candidate who receives the most votes nationwide is elected president, and it would come into effect only when it would guarantee that outcome. As of March 2020, it has been adopted by fifteen states and the District of Columbia, although it is suspended in Colorado. Together, they have 196 electoral votes counting Colorado, which is 36% of the Electoral College and 73% of the 270 votes needed to give the compact legal force."

Personally, I find this highly alarming, and the fact that it would make up 73% of the votes needed to put a candidate over the top, means this need to be put down...hard. As an aside, another note on Wikipedia related to this: "...Electors are typically required to pledge to vote for the winning candidate, but there is an ongoing legal dispute about whether electors are required to vote as they pledged..."

Think about that. They took a pledge with one side of their mouths, and from the other side, say the pledge means nothing and they should be able to vote as they please. Just like that. Well, this has to be stopped. As well as expanded voting, ballot harvesting, ranked voting, and every other Leftist endeavor to tilt the table in their direction, which is their unstated goal.

24 posted on 07/06/2020 7:54:05 AM PDT by rlmorel ("Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies"- George Orwell)
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To: rlmorel

“Yes, as others have opined, it isn’t out of thin air, and this is a good decision, because when November rolls around, there will be the almost unanimous chorus from the left that the electors “do what the founders intended them to do, to vote their conscience, not what the electorate wants them to do”.“

Agree. Of greater concern, if Trump wins, will be the outright intimidation and threats to “cancel” or inflict physical harm on electors from states he won. At least this decision doesn’t enable that behavior, though I don’t expect it will dissuade either.


36 posted on 07/06/2020 8:00:50 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: rlmorel

The goal of the Left is to destroy everything that defines the United States by whatever means works. This decision takes away another tool that they intended to use when convenient and when it advances their goal. What is significant about this decision is that it was unanamous and it was based on the original intent of the Constitution.

The Electoral College was invented to protect the rights of the states in Presidental elections. The founders did not want the President to be elected by the people, or the Congress, but by the states. Since neither the internet or telegraph did not exist, the only mechanism available was for the states to select electors, have them vote as directed by the state and then send that result to the seat of the Federal Government. Faithless electors could not be tolerated if the elections were to conform to the Constitution. The Supreme Court just protected our election system.

The National Popular Vote movement is the next threat and the Supreme Court has signaled that they intend to strike that down if adopted. The reason is simple, the change of the Electoral College system can only be done by amending the Constitution and that will not happen. The proposed compact is the work around and the only way to achieve their goal. Fortunately for us, it is Unconstitutional.

Of course, they have a backup plan. Ballot harvesting will destroy fair elections and will provide the Left with a Soviet Union style election where the outcome is predetermined by those in power. Once they win an election through ballot harvesting, we will have seen our last election. That has already happened in California, they won’t stop there.


52 posted on 07/06/2020 8:28:23 AM PDT by centurion316
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