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To: kearnyirish2

[Our politicians and elites sold out our middle class to these savages; I won’t shed a tear if they go to war for 100 years.]


They won’t go to war for 100 years. Japan would have pacified China in less than 10, if it hadn’t attacked Pearl Harbor, as well as the European powers, thereby expanding its list of large and well-resourced adversaries well beyond its ability to handle. China could so something similar in India.

As to nukes, people float the idea of using nukes like they’re playing a computer game, where you simply restart the game once your character is killed. In real life, it’s very unlikely. The US has floated the use of nukes probably a dozen times since they were invented. It has used them precisely twice.

Nukes are never an option against a nuclear power with 2nd strike capability. The logic of nuclear weapons use dictates that any strike be an all-out attack to destroy the enemy’s command and control as well as its 2nd strike capabilities. That means cities and rocket bases. If you are going to kill millions of the enemy, you’d better kill them all. Because nuclear retaliation is guaranteed if you fail.

If India does a first strike, it needs to ensure that China’s SLBM’s are taken care of. That means its short-legged Kilo subs need to know where China’s SLBM-carrying subs are, and take them out before Beijing can get in touch with those subs with targeting information. Bottom line is that even if Modi kills a few hundred million Chinese, he risks tens of millions of Indian dead. Seems like a huge price to pay for a parcel of uninhabitable wasteland.

It will never be an option even in the event of conventional defeat. Losing land vs being made extinct? The choice is easy. Whereas any country that launches nukes against a nuclear power in possession of at least hundreds of nukes can expect to have its major cities and their inhabitants cremated. Nuclear doctrine is written to deter. When nuclear deterrence (to conventional invasion) fails, I expect committing suicide by initiating a first strike is a much tougher decision than the dry-as-dust documents would suggest.

Hitler tried to pull the temple down around him. I doubt any other leader, democratic or otherwise, would. Hitler wasn’t right in the head.


15 posted on 07/05/2020 5:16:39 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Japan had no chance of ever completing a conquest of China; when the war ended there were a million armed Japanese troops in China, and they never came close to winning. They invaded Manchuria in 1931, and in the next 14 years never even took a third of the country. The population and geography weren’t in their favor; India is in better shape on both counts.


16 posted on 07/05/2020 6:02:04 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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