[Leaning Right]

> Part of it was Obama’s State Dept trying to nation build. <

Obama was just a bit player in all this. The looming failures in Afghanistan and Iraq are all on George W. Bush. Obama, and now Trump, are just playing the bad hands that were dealt them.

Don’t let W skate. This terrible mess is on him. Just as Vietnam is on LBJ. Nixon, and then Ford, were just the bit players in that tragedy.

[Salvavida]

I was in Afghanistan during Barkey, not Bush. The 82nd Airborne had no fight in them, and the State Dept was pussy-footing with the Afghan govt.

We couldn't even drink beer on a US base because of the cucks as State. They were worried about offending, when they should have empowered the 82nd to slaughter.

[laconic]

Advocates of our continuing to pour blood and treasure into this mess remind me of the liberals in Russia in 1917 continuing to fight a meaningless war while the Bolsheviks schemed at home.