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U.S. Republican lawmakers urge Trump to reconsider Germany troop reduction plan
Reuters ^ | June 23, 2020 5:35 AM | Patricia Zengerle

Posted on 06/23/2020 9:03:08 AM PDT by Olog-hai

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To: Olog-hai

A little known fact is that the Germans and NATO have paid certain bills for troops in Germany. The same practice applies in Poland. If we are going to keep these troops on the rolls, it’s cheaper to station them in Europe. Last I checked our committment to NATO brought down the USSR. Without us, the Warsaw Pact would extend to the English Channel.


21 posted on 06/23/2020 9:28:01 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: Socon-Econ

Why are we defending the country that started and lost two world wars?


22 posted on 06/23/2020 9:29:46 AM PDT by CathyWhite
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To: montag813

I know, if you are stationed in Germany you can be safe and enjoy yourself. I seriously doubt they scare anyone and do not want to do anything.


23 posted on 06/23/2020 9:29:48 AM PDT by NotchJohnson
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To: centurion316

it’s cheaper to station them in Europe.


There are OTHER considerations.


24 posted on 06/23/2020 9:32:16 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Olog-hai

Seven paragraphs at source - Reuters and they can’t name 6 other signatories and their districts? Fake news.


25 posted on 06/23/2020 9:34:48 AM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: Olog-hai

I was stationed in West Germany 1987-1990. We should have pulled all our troops out a long time ago.


26 posted on 06/23/2020 9:36:48 AM PDT by captain_dave
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To: Olog-hai
Trump accused Germany of being “delinquent” in its payments to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization and vowed to stick with the plan unless Berlin changed course. NATO in 2014 set a target that each of its 30 members should spend 2% of GDP on defense. Most, including Germany, do not

F'em all.

The idea that Russia will invade Europe and therefore need US forces to stop that is ludicrous.

The krauts have built a fascist/ socialist economy because we pay for their security.

Their annual military budget is about 1.2% which is peanuts.

Let them protect themselves and they could start by shutting the gas pipeline from Russia.

27 posted on 06/23/2020 9:40:33 AM PDT by USS Alaska (NUKE THE MOOSELIMB, TERRORISTS, NOW!)
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To: Olog-hai
The lawmakers also warned that Moscow and Beijing sought to sow divisions between the United States and its allies...

Divisions that have existed for several years now. Leaving the troops will not make the relationship better and I doubt removing them will make it worse so go ahead and take them out.

28 posted on 06/23/2020 9:40:56 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Olog-hai

“U.S. troops in Germany, saying their presence is the backbone of NATO’s deterrent against Russian aggression.”

How about NATO growing it’s own backbone?


29 posted on 06/23/2020 9:41:22 AM PDT by antidemoncrat (uff)
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Along with McCaul, the letter is signed by Reps. Adam Kinzinger..

Douchebag flyboy, shill for the military industrial complex and whore for endless global wars.

He's arrogant POS to boot... to the point where you want to punch his fkn teeth in.

30 posted on 06/23/2020 9:42:14 AM PDT by AAABEST (NY/DC/LA media/political/military industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: corkoman

DITTO!


31 posted on 06/23/2020 9:43:40 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Nobility is defined by the demands it makes on us - by obligations, not by rights".)
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To: USS Alaska

This is a feint, like I said in another post. We get out of there and they quickly make up with Russia; they’ve been making very peaceful overtures towards Russia for decades, the pipeline being one culmination of such.


32 posted on 06/23/2020 9:43:46 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

The Republicans need to be focusing on protecting the borders and fighting leftist domestic terrorism.

If you can’t defend your own house, you are crazy to spend resources defending someone elses.


33 posted on 06/23/2020 9:45:29 AM PDT by cgbg (Kneeling is a half measure--lefties need to dig a six foot hole and bury themselves in it.)
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To: PeterPrinciple
There are OTHER considerations.

Of course, the isolationists have plenty, most of them not worth serious thought.

34 posted on 06/23/2020 9:49:30 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: Olog-hai

We don’t need that many troops in Germany. We just don’t.


35 posted on 06/23/2020 9:50:13 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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To: cgbg
The New Deal, Dean Acheson wrote approvingly in a book called A Democrat Looks At His Party, “conceived of the federal government as the whole people organized to do what had to be done.” A year later, Mr. (Arthur) Larson wrote A Republican Looks At His Party, and made much the same claim in his book for modern Republicans. The “underlying philosophy” of the New Republicanism, said Mr. Larson, is that “if a job has to be done to meet the needs of the people, and no one else can do it, then it is the proper function of the federal government.”

Here we have, by prominent spokesmen of both political parties, an unqualified repudiation of the principle of limited government. There is no reference by either of them to the Constitution, or any attempt to define the legitimate functions of government. The government can do whatever needs to be done; note, too, the implicit but necessary assumption that it is the government itself that determines what needs to be done.

We must not, I think, underrate the importance of these statements. They reflect the view of a majority of the leaders of one of our parties, and of a strong minority among the leaders of the other, and they propound the first principle of totalitarianism: that the State is competent to do all things and is limited in what it actually does only by the will of those who control the State. …

The Conscience of a Conservative (1960), Chapter 2, page 15
If RINOs were a “strong minority” in the late 1950s, how many are in the party today?
36 posted on 06/23/2020 9:58:36 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

We are going to need troops here. Of course, with what I have seen lately perhaps leaving them in Germany is better


37 posted on 06/23/2020 10:09:00 AM PDT by redgolum (If this culture today is civilization, I will be the barbarian)
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To: USS Alaska

not enough Germans. Their birth rate is low, and they import Turks by the bushel full. Simply put, there will be no more Germany soon


38 posted on 06/23/2020 10:10:58 AM PDT by redgolum (If this culture today is civilization, I will be the barbarian)
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To: redgolum

That’s why Germany wants their precious EU so much.


39 posted on 06/23/2020 10:15:38 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: NotchJohnson

I know, if you are stationed in Germany you can be safe and enjoy yourself. I seriously doubt they scare anyone and do not want to do anything.
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Germany has been listed as one of the 25 countries that hate us. So, move the bases to Romania. My experience is that Romanians love the US.


40 posted on 06/23/2020 10:30:26 AM PDT by Yulee
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