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[British] Pub chain and insurer apologise for slavery links
BBC ^ | 18 June 2020 | Anon

Posted on 06/18/2020 2:41:30 AM PDT by Mr Radical

[British] Pub chain Greene King and insurance market Lloyd's of London have apologised for their historical links to the slave trade... Both corporations have apologised and said they will donate to charities representing black and minority ethnic (BAME) groups.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: blm; reparations; slavery; uk
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British businesses start paying reparations (or is it protection money)!
The fools don't realise you can't appease the mob.
1 posted on 06/18/2020 2:41:30 AM PDT by Mr Radical
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To: Mr Radical

Remember, the British i vited these people into their country.


2 posted on 06/18/2020 2:50:17 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Mocking Liberals is not only a right, but the duty of all Americans.)
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To: Mr Radical

It’s not their money. It’s the shareholders’ money.


3 posted on 06/18/2020 2:57:15 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Mr Radical

I went to a bar in London a few summers ago called “Hung, Drawn & Quartered”. It was awesome & the meat pies were great. I follow them on Facebook - hopefully they won’t cave to the PC bullsh*t!


4 posted on 06/18/2020 2:58:53 AM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (A Realistically Really Real Housewife)
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To: Cowboy Bob
hmmm.. no, the British didn't "invite" these people into their country?

Lloyds is an old English insurer which was founded in 1688 and insured slave ships

Brewer and pub chain Greene King was originally founded in 1799 by Benjamin Greene, who owned highly-profitable plantations.

His son Edward took over control of the brewery in 1836 and it was renamed Greene King in 1887 after merging with a local brewery.

When slavery was abolished in 1833, the UK government raised huge amounts for compensation. However, that money was not paid to those who had been enslaved, but was given instead to slave-owners for their "loss of human property".

Benjamin Greene was one of thousands who received payment. Details of the sums are listed in a database held by the University College London (UCL).

5 posted on 06/18/2020 3:03:15 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: Mr Radical

Like apologizing for the sins of your great-great-great-grandfather. Stupid.


6 posted on 06/18/2020 3:08:19 AM PDT by jimfree (My19 y/o granddaughter continues to have more quality exec experience than an 8 year Obama.)
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To: Mr Radical

The Antifa/BLM Cultural Revolution continues.
Chairman Mao would have been most pleased.


7 posted on 06/18/2020 3:11:11 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Cronos

should I go over all of the wrongs done in history because there are thousands. Who is going to pay whom and when and how much and why?

I am sorry I don’t shed near your sympathy I don’t really care at all. My family came here from Italy and the 19 hundreds. I don’t know anybody won damn apology and no company should be paying for it happened hundreds of years ago. do you want to start doing that for every country that’s been involved in anything?

and not hundreds and hundreds of years ago. Germany should be paying all of Europe and America. Japan should be paying America and China and North Korea. The Turks should be paying for the 1 million people that killed. And on and on and on. Your sympathy lies in the wrong place and honestly on the wrong board


8 posted on 06/18/2020 3:11:57 AM PDT by dp0622 (The very future of tihe Republic is at stake. We now know dems will do ANYTHING to win.)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

I liked that place. Right on Tower Hill. We made the mistake of going just after 5PM, and it filled up with very loud stock brokers and bankers from the financial district. Good food though!


9 posted on 06/18/2020 3:14:12 AM PDT by The Chid
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To: Cronos
They don't need to apologize for sh*t.
Are you aware that every single civilization in history, including in Africa before the White man ever stepped there, practiced slavery?
10 posted on 06/18/2020 3:15:09 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Cronos

Hmmmm.. WTF is your point?


11 posted on 06/18/2020 3:39:31 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Mocking Liberals is not only a right, but the duty of all Americans.)
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To: Mr Radical

Why doesn’t anyone counter that africans enslaved Europeans for a much longer period?


12 posted on 06/18/2020 3:39:33 AM PDT by Eagles6
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To: Cowboy Bob

you said “the British invited these people in” — err.. no, Lloyds and the Green pub have been in Britain for well over 200 years


13 posted on 06/18/2020 3:42:44 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: dp0622

You as an individual no. There is no individual alive today who participated in the inter-Atlantic slave trade of Africans.

As to the question of reparations - they make no sense now in the 21st century as none of the slaves are alive, nor the slave traders.

As to apologies from institutions that existed, yes - note that the Kurds apologized for their killing of Armenians in the Armenian genocide - that has cleared the air immensely.

In the case of the inter-Atlantic slave trade, the US government doesn’t need to apologize in any way - neither the UK as it became a strong abolitionist. The institutions that SHOULD apologize for the slave trade are the Fulani and other Kings of nations/tribes in West Africa. Those institutions still exist, in unbroken line since before the 1800s.


14 posted on 06/18/2020 3:47:37 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: SmokingJoe

“every single” — true, when mankind transitioned to an agricultural/animal husbandry system, then slaves became needed and especially so in cities (i.e. “civis” - so civilization). There is one exception to that rule - the Indus valley civilization - with large cities but no instance of slaves. It is puzzling


15 posted on 06/18/2020 3:50:23 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: The Chid

We were on a Collette Travel tour and landed in London a day before the tour started just so that we could tour the city for a day. Our hotel was down the street from the Tower of London (and very close to the pub).

We did a Jack The Ripper Tour (Phenomenal!) and took an all-day River Thames tour — up & down the River Thames all day long. Went all the way to Greenwich. I got a sunburn that day (Mid-July 2015) and my friends couldn’t believe that I actually “got a sunburn in London, England”.


16 posted on 06/18/2020 3:53:18 AM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (A Realistically Really Real Housewife)
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This reparation bullcrap has to stop....how about every person of color be returned to their tribal point of origin?......there,if they don’t want to go,then shut the hell up.


17 posted on 06/18/2020 4:15:35 AM PDT by pricilla (one should always try to be smarter than the equipment one is operating - Amajato)
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To: Cronos

But who brought Lloyds and the Green pub to their knees?


18 posted on 06/18/2020 4:32:01 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Mocking Liberals is not only a right, but the duty of all Americans.)
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To: pricilla

To be precise though - these were 2 corporations (legal “persons”) who profited by the slave trade. They apologized, and have offered to donate money to charities - not reparations.

No actual individuals alive today have participated from the cross-Atlantic slave trade.

In the case of reparations in the USA and affirmative action, it doesn’t make much sense - as many “black” people have white genes (from slave-owners sleeping with slaves) and may “white” people have black genes (from the same or other routes), not to mention that there are many “whites” who didn’t have slave-owning ancestors and many “blacks” came after this slave period.

I think the fairest is granting opportunities for smart students and hard-working students from poorer backgrounds to get scholarships and on-campus stays starting from school - irrespective of the color of their skin.

So a poor “red neck” or “black” or “asian” or whatever who shows potential gets the opportunity to study at a top level school and also live on-campus and be fed and clothed. This person can break out of poverty.

To me it seems that Botswana gets it correct in removing that “white” or “black”


19 posted on 06/18/2020 4:41:37 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: Cowboy Bob
Hardly to "their knees" - Lloyds has tons of cash and this "charity donation" will bring it more cash by way of "corporate goodwill glow". Ditto for the pub chain.

Who got them to do this? Most likely the BLM folks - who, in the UK are not only BAME folks

But I see you want to say that the British invited in the black folks to the UK, right?p>Well, wrong - pre their independence, members of the British colonies were free to live and work in the UK and many did.

20 posted on 06/18/2020 4:46:10 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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