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Michigan Democrats Warn Polls Showing Biden Leading Trump Not Reliable
Breitbart ^ | 16 June 2020 | PENNY STARR

Posted on 06/16/2020 6:45:40 PM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel

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To: BlackFemaleArmyColonel
"Rep. Debbie Dingell (D-MI) and Gov. Gretchen Whitmer"

Three boobs.
21 posted on 06/16/2020 7:41:29 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: BlackFemaleArmyColonel

I disagree. Joe is up at least 15 in Michigan. I don’t think he even needs to go.


22 posted on 06/16/2020 8:04:42 PM PDT by wiseprince
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Ya think?


23 posted on 06/16/2020 8:26:32 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Some of the folks around these parts have been sniffing super flu.)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyColonel
Michigan Democrats Warn Polls Showing Biden Leading Trump Not Reliable

No Sheeit!

24 posted on 06/16/2020 9:00:09 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: BlackFemaleArmyColonel

““I know Joe Biden gets it. I know he’ll be here.””

i’m sure he’ll be there ... but only if they can make him feel at home by having a suitable basement prepared for him that has am ample supply of butterscotch pudding and a 3rd rate video setup that barely works ...


25 posted on 06/16/2020 9:27:01 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: cgbg
You are correct - it is all about who shows up and pollsters try to figure that out by attempting to filter out those who may not vote (at least after Labor Day), so polling is more of an art in many ways.

Black turnout is obviously very important to any democrat. Since Biden is going to pick a black VP candidate, that may work wonders in getting blacks to the polls. I also don't believe blacks support Trump in the numbers the polls suggest. In 2018, republican support by blacks were all the rage and it never materialized at the polls and it won't happen in 2020, either. Supporting the democrat is such a cultural touchstone in the black community, I don't see a change.

26 posted on 06/16/2020 10:34:10 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: Theodore R.

I recall in the aftermath of the 2016 election, the only fraudulent vote that got any press was for Trump. It was by a lady in Iowa who voted for Trump twice on election day. It made the front page of the Washington Post. All I could do was shake my head at the corrupt media.


27 posted on 06/16/2020 10:37:12 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: snarkytart

Yup.


28 posted on 06/16/2020 11:13:41 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore.)
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To: JennysCool

4 hits the nail on the head. Fake polls to keep dems energized are realy going to make it difficult to replace him.


29 posted on 06/16/2020 11:28:14 PM PDT by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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To: Dilbert San Diego
I suspect that there are a number of Trump supporters out there who are reluctant to tell a stranger on the phone that they support Trump SO THEY DON'T GET BEATEN UP BY ANTIFA.
30 posted on 06/17/2020 2:10:17 AM PDT by CptnObvious (Question her now.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Probably don’t want the “peaceful” wing of the democrat party, ANTIFA, coming to their homes.


31 posted on 06/17/2020 2:24:58 AM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.for corruptiion)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyColonel

Ruh-roh...the polls designed to suppress conservative voters also give Dem voters false sense of security...whodathunkit?


32 posted on 06/17/2020 4:09:52 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: Dave W

The issue is turnout.

There is no evidence that _any_ VP candidate has had a significant impact on _turnout_.

While political insiders get all excited by VP picks, and the party base may get interested in the topic, the voters that are undecided on whether to turn out or not are those _least_ interested in politics.

In a forum like this it is hard to imagine these folks—it is even harder to understand what motivates them.

What is most important is that pollsters know as little as we do about it.

To the extent that these low commitment voters make decisions whether or not to vote, it is usually at the very last minute, long after the VP selection has been made.

Early voting has muddied the waters even further.

Talking heads may sound persuasive, but at the end of the day their ignorance on what makes low commitment voters vote is complete—there is no good data and lots of wild speculation.


33 posted on 06/17/2020 6:26:26 AM PDT by cgbg (Kneeling is a half measure--lefties need to dig a six foot hole and bury themselves in it.)
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To: cgbg
I completely agree with you that the VP choice has meant little in the end as to who people vote for and turnout. But as they say, it is true until it isn't.

We do know when Obama was on the ticket, there was historic black turnout and it went back to normal levels in 2016. So, it is possible that having a black VP candidate on the ticket may boost black turnout - it can't hurt - we do know that. We won't know until election night.

Also assume that the news media will lionize the VP candidate and swoon with ecstasy and will do all they can to boost black turnout.

34 posted on 06/17/2020 4:07:15 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: BlackFemaleArmyColonel
Translation:

Democrats worry that polls showing Biden's lead growing may outpace their ability to back it up after voting has ended.

They're going to wind up in 110% turnout territory if the polls keep going like this.

-PJ

35 posted on 06/17/2020 4:16:33 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Freedom of the press is the People's right to publish, not CNN's right to the 1st question.)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyColonel

I have no idea whether the polls are accurate or not, but they want people to turn out and vote. Saying the race is close is the best way to do that.


36 posted on 06/17/2020 4:18:17 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Dave W

My read on the black turnout issue is that the Obama turnout was a fluke that will not be repeated, not even close.

He was the first black major party presidential candidate.

There is nothing the Democrats can do that can remotely compare—they can push propaganda until the cows come home, but there is only one first.

Think of it as marginal utility for presidential candidates.

The first million bucks is a really big deal. The second million bucks, nice but not in the same ball-park for increased utility.


37 posted on 06/17/2020 4:41:32 PM PDT by cgbg (Kneeling is a half measure--lefties need to dig a six foot hole and bury themselves in it.)
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To: cgbg

I think that is well thought out. Thanks for your insight.


38 posted on 06/17/2020 7:35:46 PM PDT by Dave W
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