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Neck Hold Used By Minneapolis Officer Was Approved By Department Policy
LAW OFFICER ^ | May 29, 2020 | by Law Officer

Posted on 05/31/2020 12:15:22 PM PDT by Yogafist

According to the Minneapolis Police Policy Manual, the restraint used was in policy and it also indicates that training is given to officers on the maneuver.

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This is going to muddy the waters.

5-311 USE OF NECK RESTRAINTS AND CHOKE HOLDS (10/16/02) (08/17/07) (10/01/10) (04/16/12)

DEFINITIONS I.

Choke Hold: Deadly force option. Defined as applying direct pressure on a person’s trachea or airway (front of the neck), blocking or obstructing the airway (04/16/12)

Neck Restraint: Non-deadly force option. Defined as compressing one or both sides of a person’s neck with an arm or leg, without applying direct pressure to the trachea or airway (front of the neck). Only sworn employees who have received training from the MPD Training Unit are authorized to use neck restraints. The MPD authorizes two types of neck restraints: Conscious Neck Restraint and Unconscious Neck Restraint. (04/16/12)

Conscious Neck Restraint: The subject is placed in a neck restraint with intent to control, and not to render the subject unconscious, by only applying light to moderate pressure. (04/16/12)

Unconscious Neck Restraint: The subject is placed in a neck restraint with the intention of rendering the person unconscious by applying adequate pressure. (04/16/12)

1 posted on 05/31/2020 12:15:25 PM PDT by Yogafist
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To: Yogafist
Once the man in custody was not resisting or threatening to resist, the cops had a sworn duty to cease the use of force and render aid. The dying man verbally agreed that he would comply with their orders and he was clearly in medical distress. In this case, the cops willfully disregard the safety of the man in their custody.
5-303.01 DUTY TO INTERVENE

It shall be the duty of every sworn employee present at any scene
where physical force is being applied to either stop or attempt to
stop another sworn employee when force is being inappropriately applied
or is no longer required.

5-306 USE OF FORCE – REPORTING AND POST INCIDENT REQUIREMENTS

As soon as reasonably practical, determine if anyone was injured
and render medical aid consistent with training and request Emergency
Medical Service (EMS) if necessary.

Source: http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/police/policy/mpdpolicy_5-300_5-300

Furthermore, every cop knows that irreversible brain damage/death occurs within 3-5 minutes after breathing/circulation stops.

2 posted on 05/31/2020 12:17:56 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Don't be a pinhead.)
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To: Yogafist

Bkmark


3 posted on 05/31/2020 12:18:08 PM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: Yogafist

I am of the opinion that once a suspect is on the ground and restrained by handcuffs, these types of hold should not be used. Pressure hold against the elbow, lower back, butt or thigh is often all that is needed to keep the suspect restrained as it prevents getting to their feet.


4 posted on 05/31/2020 12:18:35 PM PDT by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt - Dad's wisdom)
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To: Yogafist

Not much. The LAPD precedent with the chokehold was that despite it being in the authorized techniques list and training regimen, it didn’t stop officers from being found guilty of murder or manslaughter when they accidentally or otherwise killed people in custody with it. It also didn’t keep the city or PD from being sued for giant sums of money and losing. Eventually they had to ban it.


5 posted on 05/31/2020 12:19:04 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Yogafist

want I want to know is why the officer was playing “pocket pool” while kneeling on the back of Floyd’s neck?


6 posted on 05/31/2020 12:20:20 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: NautiNurse

Geeze, the riots will go on thru November!


7 posted on 05/31/2020 12:22:03 PM PDT by hsmomx3 (Patiently awaiting the return of Steelers football)
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To: Yogafist

IMO,

That is bad department policy. The guy was on the ground, handcuffed saying he can’t breathe. The cop should have laid off and one of those other cops should have stopped him. There is no way to justify this.


8 posted on 05/31/2020 12:24:06 PM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Yogafist

If we think the rioting is awful now, when the full coroner’s report comes back to reveal that the neck restraint did NOT cause Floyd’s death, the full out black revolt will be an act of war. There is no way that the American Black community will find such a revelation trustworthy - they will scream conspiracy, white bigotry, and death to the oppressive white devil slave-masters.


9 posted on 05/31/2020 12:25:25 PM PDT by Thommas
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To: Yogafist

> Only sworn employees who have received training from the MPD Training Unit are authorized to use neck restraints <

Would such training have discussed time limits? One would think so. I was once put into a sleeper hold, as a demonstration. I went unconscious in less than a minute.

The cop had his knee on Floyd’s neck for something like eight minutes. Had I been in that sleeper hold for that long, I’m pretty sure I’d been dead today.


10 posted on 05/31/2020 12:30:24 PM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: NautiNurse

I’m going to get flamed for this, but you can’t tell, from the video how much if any pressure was applied.

What you can tell from the video and transcript is:

a) the officers were specifically concerned about something called “excited delirium”, which means they had called for fire, and were no longer planning on transporting him directly to jail
and

b)at least one of them suspected the suspect was under the influence of PCP, making him highly erratic and a danger to himself and others until he cold be secured to a gurney.

I know it’s fun to leap to conclusions because “its right there in the video”, but this video is NOT dispositive proof of misconduct.


11 posted on 05/31/2020 12:33:40 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: Thommas

I’m just glad I live on 13 acres out in the country. However, I’m just 35 miles from Pittsburgh.


12 posted on 05/31/2020 12:36:48 PM PDT by V V Camp Enari 67-68 (Viet Vet)
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To: Yogafist
That's what I said on other threads. There was an article that offered the interview of a retired Hennepin County police trainer who said that the neck restraint was taught to all Minneapolis police officers as part of their required training. Law enforcement agencies usually require their employees to undergo a specific amount of hours of training each year, and every year of their careers. Restraint and unarmed defensive tactics, First Aid/CPR, Weapons/Gas, among other things. You have to have these classes in order to maintain your police or peace officer status.

What specifically was taught in this class will be picked apart. If it's deemed that Chauvin used excessive force despite using an approved procedure, he's done for. The problem is that this guy's had 17 other complaints against him during his career, but none of them were deemed excessive, and he was never disciplined for any of them. Whose fault is that? Is it the fault of all the business owners whose livelihoods have been destroyed? Is it the fault of the property owners who buildings have been destroyed by fire? It's the fault of the liberals running the governments of these cities. And the people of Minnesota have no one but themselves to blame for continually electing Democrats into positions of power. It was Democrats who let Chauvin walk all those times. You reap what you sow folks. Go look into the mirror if you want to find someone to blame.

13 posted on 05/31/2020 12:37:09 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: Thommas
The family has hired an independent specialist to conduct another autopsy. Think about all those coroners that made "suicide" decisions about known Hillary associates who were shot multiple times and in the back of the head ... and in many other completely "non suicide" ways.

It may have not been the direct cause of death, but it sure as heck played a big part at the very least.
14 posted on 05/31/2020 12:38:02 PM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: Yogafist

The dood didn’t die of the neck hold.


15 posted on 05/31/2020 12:40:19 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: Yogafist
The Technique Is Considered 'Non-Lethal'

Looks like they got that wrong.

16 posted on 05/31/2020 12:40:30 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
The guy was on the ground, handcuffed saying he can’t breathe.

It looked to me as if the officers knee was placed on the arteries that supply oxygen to the brain. For a few seconds it causes unconsciousness, for longer it's a stroke. For much longer victim is brain dead.

17 posted on 05/31/2020 12:40:37 PM PDT by oldbrowser (The government did not create the people. The people created the government)
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To: NautiNurse

‘Once the man in custody was not resisting or threatening to resist, the cops had a sworn duty to cease the use of force and render aid.’

good point; this is what all the people on here who are trying to justify the cop’s behavior are forgetting; the man was no longer a tangible threat...


18 posted on 05/31/2020 12:41:49 PM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: absalom01

I have received some really nasty responses for saying what you said.

I am of the opinion that we should wait until all the facts are in before passing judgement.

You would think that would be reasonable on FREErepublic.

Apparently not.

A video is all you need, no facts or additional evidence is acceptable.


19 posted on 05/31/2020 12:43:02 PM PDT by shelterguy
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To: hsmomx3

‘Geeze, the riots will go on thru November!’

the riots will play out this week...


20 posted on 05/31/2020 12:43:22 PM PDT by IrishBrigade
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