Posted on 05/28/2020 8:52:09 PM PDT by Helicondelta
Protesters angered by the death of George Floyd, a handcuffed black man who died while in police custody, gained access to a Minneapolis police precinct on Thursday, the third straight night of violent protests spreading beyond the city.
Livestream video showed the protesters entering the building, where fire alarms blared and sprinklers ran as blazes were set.
Dozens of businesses across the Twin Cities were boarding up their windows and doors Thursday in an effort to prevent looting, with the Minneapolis-based Target announcing it was temporarily closing two dozen area stores. Minneapolis shut down nearly its entire light-rail system and all bus service through Sunday out of safety concerns.
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Again, wouldn’t go that far, but the experience at a relatively young age did have long lasting effects. Especially when I saw what the government didn’t do to fix the problem afterwards.
So when are the cops going nut up and start restoring order?
Sir, I salute you. That was ballsy and you guys will always be remembered as brave dudes.
Yes, ma’am - I’ve posted about it a few times over the years here, and the Saiga 12 autoloading shotgun here next to me was built up over the years from the lessons I learned that week, despite being underage.
I am Asian, but I am not Korean. The store owner whose roof I was on was Korean, though.
Capt. Harris : Be advised. We’ve got zips in the wire down here.
Phantom Pilot : Roger your last, Bravo Six. Can’t run it any closer. We’re hot to trot and packing snake and nape, but we’re bingo on fuel.
Capt. Harris : For the record, it’s my call. Dump everything you’ve got left on my pos. I say again, expend all remaining in my perimeter. It’s a lovely fucking war. Bravo Six out.
Phantom Pilot : Roger your last, Bravo Six. We copy. It’s your call. Get them all in their holes down there. Hang tough, Bravo Six. We’re coming cocked for treetops.
Just curious,are there homes and/or apartments in this area?
In LA back in 1992, it took them most of the week, the National Guard being deployed and then finally getting ammo, and THEN having the machinegunners shoot up the next few roadblock runners the following night for order to start coming back and LAPD began sortieing again.
Unfortunately one of the first things they tried a couple weeks later was going door to door to try to find some of the hardware the media had recorded. Most of it was safely away by then, thankfully.
Too many Americans are afraid to take steps to protect themselves for fear of getting in legal or civil trouble or being seen as "impolite" or racist.
Really, I don’t want black people to be killed by cops. And I know that pulling cops out of high crime areas may result in more blacks getting killed by other blacks. But for the safety of the rest of the city, that’s probably what should be done.
I’m proud of you and the others.
That was an incredibly stand up thing to have done.
Some people did something.
I didn’t see a lot of action, the mobs tended to avoid the complex I was on top of. I was also underage and mostly used to spell the adults and fill out a sort of guard rotation.
There was some complex not far away that had a lot worse luck and either had a lot of trigger happy defenders or they kept getting lots of unwanted visitors.
To be fair, after the first night, it was pretty obvious that the police wouldn’t be coming around to investigate any time soon. I think it takes a lot less to do what needs to be done in a “no rules” environment than it does in a more normal environment where the cops will promptly show up to collect your arse and ruin your life.
Mid-morning on Sunday July 23, 1967, in Detroit, Michigan I was driving down Grand River Boulevard from my home to my office in Detroit to prepare for a management review the following day. About half way there I noticed huge clouds of smoke on my left, and numerous fire trucks, ambulances, and police cars headed that way. I was then alone in my office and getting radio reports of what was happening. I looked outside and saw a group of people carrying loot out of a closed store across the street and contacted police, who advised me to NOT try to get back home until the situation was resolved, and to make sure my office on the third floor of a building (deserted except for me) was secure.
Long story short: I spent the next two nights sleeping on the floor in my office, eating from vending machines in the building, and watching (from carefully darkened windows) vandals (white and black) smashing windows and looting stores in the street below, with NO police response. I finally got back home on Tuesday by joining a National Guard convoy back up Grand River Boulevard toward my home.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_Detroit_riot
is informative as to how the “riot” started and progressed, reactions of the politicians as well as the people, and a summary of the deaths and damage.
It also includes a fair analysis of the root problems in Detroit leading up to this event and its aftermath.
I find the concluding paragraphs very helpful in understanding what is happening in Minneapolis and St. Paul today. I copy them here:
Start of copy from Wikipedia article:
Was it a “Rebellion”
Forty years later, the event remained a source of reflection for the community. The Detroit newspapers covered the 40th anniversary of the uprising in 2007. Coverage often labeled the event in terms of a “riot”; however, the focus of the coverage opened the door to a transition of framing. Several articles referred to the event as a rebellion and others specifically questioned the implications of thinking about the event in terms other than a riot.
Now, ten years later, the word is changing again. The word “rebellion,” according to Merriam-Webster Dictionary, is defined as “an instance of open and armed defiance or resistance to an established government”.
The word “riot” is “a tumultuous disturbance of the public peace; unrestrained revelry.”
In light of that analysis, a new word that has become more popular and widely used is “uprising.” As defined by Miriam-Webster Dictionary, an uprising is “a usually localized act of popular violence in defiance of an established government.” As there was no formal leadership in ‘67, it could not have been a rebellion, and yet, this was far more than simply a riot. Calling these events an uprising hints at the depth and complexity of this time.
End of copy from Wikipedia article:
My conclusion:
The “riot” in Detroit started with a raid by white police on a black nightclub and the reaction by bystanders to that raid. It then quickly evolved into a full-fledged “rebellion” in defiance of an established government.
The “riot” in Minneapolis started with an apparent murder of a black man by a white police officer, with 3 other white police officers standing by.
It then quickly evolved into a full-fledged “rebellion” in defiance of an established government.
I hope Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer understands this and takes careful note.
There was more than a little enlightened self interest in it for us non-shopowners too. It was safer on that rooftop than anywhere else in the area, though the mobs weren’t generally attacking residences, and it was something to do other than sit at home and be bored. :P
One thing I never did figure out was why the mobs torched random palm trees on the streets. Sure, they kind of look cool when they burn, but otherwise what’s the point? What’d the palm trees ever do to them?
The good people in that neighborhood need to pack up and get out... soon property values will drop, violent crime will skyrocket and stores will disappear.
All that’ll be left - - liquor stores, trugs, people too poor to move, and whiny black women lamenting that white people have nice stores and they don’t...
The good people in that neighborhood need to pack up and get out... soon property values will drop, violent crime will skyrocket and stores will disappear.
All that’ll be left - - liquor stores, thugs, people too poor to move, and whiny black women lamenting that white people have nice stores and they don’t...
Was there a “stand down” order from the Mayor?
Goid point.
Great job! I don’t blame you.
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