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Coronavirus uses same strategy as HIV to dodge immune response, Chinese study finds
South China Morning Post ^ | 27 May 2020 | Stephen Chen

Posted on 05/26/2020 8:50:55 PM PDT by amorphous

The novel coronavirus uses the same strategy to evade attack from the human immune system as HIV, according to a new study by Chinese scientists.

Both viruses remove marker molecules on the surface of an infected cell that are used by the immune system to identify invaders, the researchers said in a non-peer reviewed paper posted on preprint website bioRxiv.org on Sunday. They warned that this commonality could mean Sars-CoV-2, the clinical name for the virus, could be around for some time, like HIV.

Virologist Zhang Hui and a team from Sun Yat-sen University in Guangzhou also said their discovery added weight to clinical observations that the coronavirus was showing “some characteristics of viruses causing chronic infection”.

(Excerpt) Read more at scmp.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: aids; bioweapon; coronavirus; covid19; gainoffunction
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Zhang Shuye, principal investigator with the Shanghai Public Health Clinical Centre at Fudan University, said the findings of the Guangzhou study were “not entirely a surprise”, and unrelated viruses could take on similar traits as they came under similar selective pressure.

Suppression of MHC molecules had also happened in other viruses such as some herpes viruses, said Zhang, who was not involved in the study.

He noted that the new coronavirus was not hijacking T cells and turning them into a means to reproduce, as HIV did, adding that the new virus was mutating at a much slower pace and the death rate was “much, much lower than for Aids”.

He said the body’s immune system had various ways to fight back. “What we need to bear in mind through this pandemic is that, though the virus may have some traits that are new or unexpected, the majority of patients recover,” Zhang said. “This should give us some confidence.”

1 posted on 05/26/2020 8:50:55 PM PDT by amorphous
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To: amorphous

In before the flubros show up with a ton of name calling and personal attacks.


2 posted on 05/26/2020 9:01:02 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: amorphous

China Post is out dumping trash again. Its not fit for human consumption.


3 posted on 05/26/2020 9:04:05 PM PDT by TexasCruzin (Trump is the man. #TrumpPence16)
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To: amorphous
Link to study paper:

The ORF8 Protein of SARS-Co... courtesy of Zerohedge on Scribd

4 posted on 05/26/2020 9:08:21 PM PDT by amorphous
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To: amorphous

nothing the Chinese say can be believed... don’t even post it


5 posted on 05/26/2020 9:12:40 PM PDT by thoughtomator (here comes the switch to Hillary)
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To: thoughtomator
How 'bout this guy, who warned about the Coronavirus:

It's those at the helm of governments, corporations, and worldwide institutions who can't be trusted.

6 posted on 05/26/2020 9:21:39 PM PDT by amorphous
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To: amorphous

Pretty sure he is part of the CCP propaganda as well.

CCP intentionally made this virus seem 10x worse than it was, to deliberately panic the West and the US in particular into shutting down.

Remember those people who dropped dead in the streets of Wuhan, that were splashed all over the papers everywhere? Did it occur to you how strange it is that that didn’t happen anywhere else on the planet?


7 posted on 05/26/2020 9:23:33 PM PDT by thoughtomator (here comes the switch to Hillary)
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To: DannyTN
Some flubros remind me of these guys:

Taekwondodos. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7B-1mLMpHw


8 posted on 05/26/2020 9:34:25 PM PDT by amorphous
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To: thoughtomator

There were similar videos out of Equador. Bodies washing up on beaches, mass graves, bodies at roadside waiting for pickup etc.

Was that real? No idea. I haven’t seen anymore videos like that since then. Not saying they don’t exist, but I haven’t seen them.

Now they say it’s running wild in Brazil. Is that real? No idea.

All I know is that a very serious game is being played, and there are liars everywhere.


9 posted on 05/26/2020 9:34:55 PM PDT by chris37 (China's Gift wasn't born in a bowl of bat soup.)
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To: thoughtomator; amorphous
Did it occur to you how strange it is that that didn't happen anywhere else on the planet?

Because the videos and pictures were all staged. In other words fake news.

10 posted on 05/26/2020 9:39:38 PM PDT by Doofer
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“The novel coronavirus uses the same strategy to evade attack from the human immune system as HIV”

well, the coronavirus must be doing a terrible job with that “strategy”, because most people recover from coronavirus(most actually develop antibodies without even knowing they’ve contracted the virus),whereas essentially no one ever recovers from HIV, but are simply kept alive by taking a daily panoply of antivirals their entire lives ...


11 posted on 05/26/2020 9:43:12 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: amorphous

Hmmm. Wasn’t it a French investigator that found traces of the HIV inserted into a corona virus and hence was manufactured???


12 posted on 05/26/2020 9:43:14 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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Hmmm. Wasn’t it a French investigator that found traces of the HIV inserted into a corona virus and hence was manufactured???


13 posted on 05/26/2020 9:43:19 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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Remember those people who dropped dead in the streets of Wuhan, that were splashed all over the papers everywhere? Did it occur to you how strange it is that that didn’t happen anywhere else on the planet?

Great catch thoughtomator.

The Chinese faked a protest too - tried to make it look like protesters had turned over a police car...but all the camera shots attempted to make it look like a large protest - when it was obvious it wasn't.

14 posted on 05/26/2020 9:44:05 PM PDT by GOPJ (Plan for the worst (intentional bio-weapon attack.) Hope for the best (current plan)...)
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True, when you see a country welding people in their apartments, it does get one's attention.

As for bodies piling up, I've seen reports from other countries, such as Italy, and even images of bodies in NYC hauled to the morgue in the back of an open pickup truck due to the number of dead; refrigerated trailers used to store them, etc.

And recently this report from Brazil:

Body lay on street for 30 hours as Brazil struggles with 20,000 coronavirus deaths

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/body-lay-street-30-hours-22072453

We have POTUS to thank for things not getting as bad as they could have. We know a LOT more about the virus now than back then. Even so, there is still plenty we don't know as this study confirms.

15 posted on 05/26/2020 9:45:55 PM PDT by amorphous
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To: Nifster

Yeah, that’s was month’s ago... Lots of weird stuff going down with this virus.


16 posted on 05/26/2020 9:47:01 PM PDT by GOPJ (Plan for the worst (intentional bio-weapon attack.) Hope for the best (current plan)...)
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To: amorphous

I read/heard this over a month ago... this gives credence that the designer COVID of 2019, ‘gained a function’.


17 posted on 05/26/2020 9:49:14 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Psalm 2. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?)
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To: Nifster

Some other country’s researchers did discover HIV segments, is about all I recall. At the time, I made mention that it might be airborne HIV. In the linked article, they mention the herpes virus which also hides in the body. But not even herpes is airborne. The unique and varied characteristics of the CV indicate to me it’s not a natural mutation that happened in the wild - more like in some lab.


18 posted on 05/26/2020 9:52:56 PM PDT by amorphous
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To: catnipman
Wait, what? Do you remember HIV - pre antivirals? Most got infected and were asymptomatic for around 5-7 years before showing symptoms. Some got a mild flu like illness when they seroconverted.

An HIV test does not test for virus. It only tests for antibodies.

19 posted on 05/26/2020 9:53:12 PM PDT by riri (If people still dropping, most aint shopping.)
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Read the comment I posted under the article. It explains it’s not as deadly as AIDS, and why.


20 posted on 05/26/2020 9:54:57 PM PDT by amorphous
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