[rlmorel]

I will say, I am willing to give up a cell phone if this new 6666 bill passes.

But I get your point.

That said, we have to try. If this doesn’t go anywhere, and people don’t get punished, our country is sunk. It may be sunk anyway at least for the rest of my life, however long that turns out to be if more of the coronavirus bills pass.

[volunbeer]

I agree 100%. I have been very surprised that more people are not upset with the massive surveillance state we have allowed to gain power without impediment.

Then I think of how much of our privacy we all surrender by plugging into the internet and using big tech software and search engines. I think people know this and most just shrug.

This is/was Watergate x 1000. I think we have no clue or idea just how bad it was and we may never know.

[reformedliberal]

...give up a cell phone...
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My husband has a smartphone, but I have resisted, relying on the landline or his phone, when away.

Now, we are moving and probably will opt out of a landline, so I need a cell phone.

I think if I get a flip phone and he never downloads an app, we’ll be relatively secure.

Naive? Is there no secure cell phone?