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The disappointing truth about antibody testing
theverge.com ^ | 5/7/2020 | Elizabeth Lopatto

Posted on 05/14/2020 5:23:30 PM PDT by rktman

DidDid you get seriously sick this year? Have you, like many others, been wondering if it was COVID-19? “I get emails every day,” says George Rutherford, a University of California San Francisco epidemiologist. They say things like, “I think I might have had it. I really want to know,” he says.

Maybe you’ve been tempted by the wave of antibody tests that recently hit the market — but don’t think that just because you can buy a test, it will be accurate.

There are lots of tests available, but it’s not entirely clear which ones are best. Tests can go wrong in several places: by choosing the wrong proteins to look for, by using the wrong chemicals in the test itself, or by making the test badly. For instance, the UK paid $20 million for antibody tests that didn’t work. "“It’s kind of like the wild West.”"

The US Food and Drug Administration allowed test makers to market their antibody tests, even if they hadn’t undergone review by the agency. The Association of Public Health Laboratories (APHL) has raised concerns about this: “We now have at least 90 tests on the market, and we don’t know about the accuracy of the results,” Kelly Wroblewski, APHL’s director of infectious disease programs, told USA Today.

“It’s kind of like the wild West,” says Janko Nikolich-Zugich, the head of the University of Arizona College of Medicine-Tucson’s department of immunobiology. One of the reasons the University of Arizona wound up making its own antibody test was because it wasn’t clear how reliable other ones might be, he says.

(Excerpt) Read more at theverge.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: covid19; plague
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Kind of my thoughts. Test for what/which and how severe are you having or did you have it? Is the particular test you took accurate? If you get tested, are you now going to be monitored? HIPPA anyone?
1 posted on 05/14/2020 5:23:31 PM PDT by rktman
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“the University of Arizona wound up making its own antibody test was because it wasn’t clear how reliable other ones might be, he says.”

If you are competent in practice, trust yourself.

Fauxcy is likely a fraud.


2 posted on 05/14/2020 5:26:28 PM PDT by Paladin2
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I don’t know if I had it. I don’t care if I had it. Just let me live life.

my mother is 87 and the senior center is closed until September. all of these people in their late 80s and early 90s are saying just let us live life and play cards. We don’t need to live to a hundred.

The whole thing is crazy.


3 posted on 05/14/2020 5:29:49 PM PDT by dp0622 (Radicals, racists dont point fingers at me I'm a small town white baroy Just tryin to make ends meet)
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To: rktman

I bought stock in that company that the UK lost the $20 million on.

I sold when things first started to look questionable.

I made $40


4 posted on 05/14/2020 5:30:49 PM PDT by Cold Heart (.)
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Tests/tracing seems like so much make work, bureaucratic mumbo jumbo.

Here's an idea. Freedom. Protect the vulnerable. Explain the risks so that everyone can make their own decisions. You don't want to open your business. Don't. You don't want to work. Go on assistance. Rely on free markets and capitalism.

Start a Nervous Nellie colony in the San Joaquin Valley, and let the rest of us get on with our lives.

5 posted on 05/14/2020 5:31:03 PM PDT by fhayek
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*HIPAA

Why would anyone want to get on the government's radar?

Read the HIPAA disclosure to find out what the Feds are allowed.

6 posted on 05/14/2020 5:32:56 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's fore<p> sure)
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To: rktman

Abbott is supposed to be better test (like 100%/99% on the 2 scales measured). Heard it is available at Quest Diagnostics.

I have not had any tests but it’s the one I want to get.

I saw a grid comparing the antibody tests.

Is Verge concern trolling that people shouldn’t even bother? Or are they trying to be Consumer Reports?


7 posted on 05/14/2020 5:36:25 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019))
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To: fhayek

“Start a Nervous Nellie colony in the San Joaquin Valley, and let the rest of us get on with our lives”

Good idea!
.


8 posted on 05/14/2020 5:37:51 PM PDT by bboise
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To: rktman

Abbot Labs claims their antibody test is better than 99 percent accurate. Of course, this article fails to name those on the “list” of the tests that aren’t accurate.


9 posted on 05/14/2020 5:47:09 PM PDT by eastexsteve
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Trust the tests from china./s
Tanzania:

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3841970/posts

“Magufuli said on Sunday the imported test kits were faulty as they had returned positive results on a goat and a pawpaw — among several non-human samples submitted for testing”


10 posted on 05/14/2020 5:49:51 PM PDT by dynachrome (The panic will end, the tyranny will not)
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To: a fool in paradise

I clicked over and read the piece. Given that it’s the Verge, I figured it would be the usual left-wing propaganda.

Instead, it’s a straighforward news piece, and appears an honest effort to provide a clear picture of where the antibody tests are standing at the moment.


11 posted on 05/14/2020 5:53:46 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: rktman

Huh?


12 posted on 05/14/2020 6:07:41 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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Here’s a question. Am I going to be covered by my insurance company if I refuse the test? They already push this bullshit if I don’t have a yearly physical. Punishes me for
$50 a month.


13 posted on 05/14/2020 6:08:36 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear ("Progressives" (elitist Communists) "Love you to death".)
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To: dp0622

Hello again. We are very blessed. As it so happens, my husband’s mother (92) has still been living at her own home with a caregiver coming 3x a week. Mom has recently started cancer treatment. She says the same thing, “I’m not afraid of this CoVid virus, and I’m not afraid to die. Just let me live what’s the rest of my life as I choose, visiting with friends and family. They are precious to me.”

So last week, my husband went to help out his Mom. She was so happy to see him and be with him. We are so grateful that she is still living in her own home and not at assisted living. It could never have happened if she was in a facility like that.

Cherished moments.

The Faucis of the world cannot take that away from us now.


14 posted on 05/14/2020 6:58:20 PM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: FamiliarFace

Amen.


15 posted on 05/14/2020 7:09:45 PM PDT by drwoof
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To: dynachrome

I love that story. Some ignorant backwards Tanzanian President outsmarted the fraudulent CHICOMS. Brilliant.


16 posted on 05/14/2020 7:09:54 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: rktman

Wait is what our local health care provider says for now as reliability should be a lot better once the dust settles and the mfrs. get the hang off it.


17 posted on 05/14/2020 7:10:04 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Monthly Donors Rock!!!)
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The Roche antibody test got approved by the FDA and is a “blood draw”/serology type that is more accurate. You have to find a lab with a Roche PCR machine and I think it may cost about $150.00 for the test?

https://www.roche.com/media/releases/med-cor-2020-04-17.htm

https://www.roche.com/strongertogether/covid-19-antibodies-immunity.htm

https://diagnostics.roche.com/us/en/products/params/elecsys-anti-sars-cov-2.html

The first “finger stick” COVID-19 antibody test (less accurate):

https://www.biomedomics.com/products/infectious-disease/covid-19-rt/


18 posted on 05/14/2020 7:29:22 PM PDT by Drago
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To: absalom01; null and void

Here was the article and comparison chart I saw a week or two ago

https://www.evaluate.com/vantage/articles/analysis/spotlight/covid-19-antibody-tests-face-very-specific-problem


19 posted on 05/14/2020 7:34:48 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019))
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To: FamiliarFace

That was a beautiful post. Everything you said was right


20 posted on 05/14/2020 7:35:47 PM PDT by dp0622 (Radicals, racists dont point fingers at me I'm a small town white baroy Just tryin to make ends meet)
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