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To: euram

Burglar, jogger, whatever. Deadly force by citizens was not the answer here.


10 posted on 05/10/2020 9:06:41 AM PDT by Not A Snowbird (I trust President Trump.)
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To: Not A Snowbird

Burglar, jogger, whatever. Deadly force by citizens was not the answer here.


That is the fact that many on here don’t want to discuss.

They believe because a man doesn’t have a clean past, that he can be executed by three perps who thought he might have committed a crime somewhere.

Only racists see race


12 posted on 05/10/2020 9:12:11 AM PDT by Trump.Deplorable
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To: Not A Snowbird

There was no need to wrestle for control of the scatter-gun.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.


13 posted on 05/10/2020 9:12:17 AM PDT by LastDayz (A blunt and brazen Texan. I will not be assimilated.)
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To: Not A Snowbird
The attempted "citizen's arrest", regardless of the guys criminal record, was inexcusable. He was running, and therefore was clearly not carrying an item he had just stolen. In no conceivable universe was there probable cause or even reasonable suspicion to attempt to stop him. Certainly, ordinary citizens who are not in any kind of uniform, and are carrying guns, shouldn't attempt to do that.

Just flip the scenario -- you're a white guy out on a run, and a couple of armed black guys -- NOT COPS - try to get you to stop. You're either going to run like hell, or if you don't think that'll work, try to rush one of them and get the gun so you don't get shot in the back.

"Citizen's arrests" should be limited to immediate actions where the citizen actually witnesses the crime, and accosts a criminal they saw committed that crime. Not playing wannabe cop.

21 posted on 05/10/2020 9:28:58 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Not A Snowbird
Burglar, jogger, whatever. Deadly force by citizens was not the answer here.

Should have detained him for the police to deal with. If he was indeed an innocent jogger, no harm done except for the lawsuit that followed; if proven a burglar "casing" targets, some jail time.

Back in the day, when I trained for marathons, I'd sometimes do 12-15 mile interval training sessions. That consists of repetitions of running hard for a specific distance or time period, then slowing to an easy pace, sometimes even walking it off. I would sometimes get suspicious looks from residents, when I was in the slow mode.

26 posted on 05/10/2020 9:37:48 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Not A Snowbird
Burglar, jogger, whatever. Deadly force by citizens was not the answer here.

In one of my CHL classes in Texas, the instructor (a former cop) mentioned the case of a guy here who saw some bad hombres robbing his neighbor's house while the neighbors were out of town. He shot and killed both of the perps (Colombian "nationals"). The instructor used this case as an example of what not to do.

Even if the guy escaped prison, he would be using a substantial amount of his life savings paying lawyers to keep him out of jail, and would likely be sued by the perps' relatives. We were taught to use our weapons to defend ourselves and to not go looking for trouble. This Aubery guy who was shot may have been a scumbag, but a "citizen's arrest" that turned to a fatal shooting was not the answer.

40 posted on 05/10/2020 10:11:16 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte (With every passing day, I am a little bit gladder that Romney lost in 2012.)
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To: Not A Snowbird

You dont know why he got shot do you?


86 posted on 05/10/2020 12:04:17 PM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: Not A Snowbird

Bingo.


170 posted on 05/11/2020 6:14:39 AM PDT by Solson (Trump 2020!)
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