Posted on 04/29/2020 1:08:34 PM PDT by RandFan
Don’t be a dumbass yourself! DPA gives the whole process versatility under a state of emergency to use all food supply chain assets however they need to be used including the smaller processing plants. Massie is only grandstanding by putting forth something that already exists in the EO.
Which Freepers? The ones who say they love the Constitution, but then won’t support Constitution-minded candidates? I wonder how many of those people draw federal paychecks?
Your understanding of Trump’s EO and how the DPA works is deficient.
The real purpose was to shield the companies from lawsuits stemming from workplace exposure. He said as much in his announcement.
It does nothing to make the supply chain more nimble or to undo the bottleneck that is the USDA meat inspection program.
How many federal meat inspectors are there? And when was the last time the number increased?
He is not grandstanding at all. He has been pushing this very sensible (especially now) bill for years.
Seems more like trying to stir a panic at the markets
I believe that could be a possibility if he has allegiances with the wrong people. At this point nothing like that would surprise me.
A good portion of meat is imported,companies owned by the Chicoms and processed by China and ILLEGALS. Furthermore our meat,dairy,produce etc is overly regulated and farmers in a impossible dilemma as they have to waste crops and livestock.
You lost me with the Just An Anus libertarian BS. Go buzz off. I know something about military ops and being in a state of war. Being under a national state of emergency gives POTUS lots of latitude. You are deficient in undertanding what the DPA is and its full force is employed here. Why don’t you carefully read this and see how its written. The flexibility is in there. Go right to the source not some half-assed politically biased article:
We’re not in a state of war.
Some as$hat public health “authority” declared a pandemic and then shut us down.
Under different circumstances, these “authorities” would perhaps have been prosecuted and executed for a whole litany of crimes against the people.
This is what poor trade practice results in. We ship a large portion of our farm production overseas and buy product back from those countries. Its partially a regulatory problem, partially a cultural problem, and mostly a trade problem.
I haven’t filed taxes in two years because I haven’t made enough personal income to. Thats the life of a farmer. I tend to operate on a five year cycle where usually two out of the five are bad years. Get three or four bad years and it may be game over. Thankfully I dont need much income as the equipment, house and property are long since paid for and the farm provides my vehicle and fuel expenses.
Ag economy and markets are a very complex thing and everything in that market is linked in some way or another. The end result of the past two years of the trade battle with China and now this economic shut down have resulted in what I expect to be a volatile ag market and possibly with the loss of some more of our countries farm production. Not sure what the total answer is but commodity prices are going to have to increase one way or another or people are going to shut down operations.
An alternative might be to cut some of the middleman out by allowing producers more freedom in their marketing but that also comes with the problem of now having to directly market your product. We are already doing this to a degree but there are restrictions on who you can sell to and how it is sold. I will have to sit down and read this bill to figure out what they are proposing before I make judgment.
If any are wondering, we produce cattle and sheep as well as all the supporting agriculture that goes with it like grain crops and hay production.
Yes we are! Where do you think this Covid-19 came from? It did not come from no wet market! It does not need to be publicly proclaimed to be in a state of war all that matters is the leadership knows or suspects we have been attacked in some way. There is a new discipline called Asymmetric warfare which is totally different than what most people have as common knowledge of warfare which is what we are engaged in. All precautions and actions taken by the Admin so far are basically DOD SOP concerning bio-warfare.
You wrote: “Under different circumstances, these “authorities” would perhaps have been prosecuted and executed for a whole litany of crimes against the people.”
Don’t be so fast to dismiss this we are not finished yet.
My understanding upon reading is that this bill would allow producers to use processors that do not have usda inspectors on site(most small local processors) to slaughter their product and then directly market to consumers and businesses.
All of these facilities fall under usda inspection guidelines however if you typically want to market directly you have to use a processor that has an inspector present that stamps and certifies the product.
This could allow farmers to sell to local businesses and individuals but comes with the caveat of having to now market that product. Traditionally we would market to a feedlot or finisher which would then have the processing done and go to market or sell to a business that would have the stock processed. That product would be contracted thoughout the supply chain.
I dont see the harm in having the option but I am not sure if it will help unless there really ends up being a supply chain disruption.
The DPA gives the POTUS the flexibility with all means of production for all industrial and supply chain related issues which are critical. Food production is one of the critical commodities. It is written broadly enough for these actions written in this bill to be taken.
I would certainly agree that dpa could be used that way but from what I have seen released from the white house so far hasnt included this provision. I’m curious why why the bill writer hasnt brought this to the white house attention or perhaps they have. It certainly wouldnt surprise me to see potus do something like this. He has been good on opening up regulation.
Either way its kind of not a big deal unless we start seeing shortages. I mean I have a usda inspection facility less than 15 miles away that I can process with and then sell product direct but I am sure there are areas that is not the case. You kinda get into this whole thing about marketability of your products as well as other logistical concerns. I would have to see a large enough demand to justify changing my production practices. But overall it would be better for the consumer because you would get a local market direct and likely higher quality product.
Most of our production likely ends up in higher end restaurants vs grocery stores(primarily because of the breeds and condition of the stock we raise). In the coming weeks we shall see what happens I suppose.
Restaurants are closed. That’s over 60% of the supply chain.
+100! I think you are making great points!
“I would certainly agree that dpa could be used that way but from what I have seen released from the white house so far hasn’t included this provision.”
I don’t think it needs to be and it does not take the onerous process of getting a bill passed through Nutty Nan who will no doubt politicize it. The POTUS can take action in a much faster manner and help you all out if this is needed. This has received enough attention that it will no doubt come up in cabinet or other meeting. It may be allowed already. We got to watch the press as they are not reliable.
Agree, not much chance of any legislation getting through this congress without being poison pilled or ear marked to death. The chief has got this at the moment, I’m still proud I hired him. We farmers and ranchers are continuing to do our everyday business and have and will until we can’t. From can till can’t as my grandfather used to say.
Keep up the good work and Godspeed to you!!
Thank you kindly.
As the price of beef and pork rise in supermarkets rise...
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Due to the shutdown, I have only been able to shop in the closest small town where prices have always been higher than in the nearest medium sized city. So, I’m spending more than usual and more than I wish, but it seems the prices are about the same as they’ve been for quite a while.
Chicken was wiped out locally though, last week. Probably should have shopped earlier, but my freezers are full as it is.
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