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Doctors research ‘COVID toes’ theory in hopes to find new coronavirus clue (frostbite like toes or finger)
Fox News ^ | April 20 2020 | Edmund DeMarche

Posted on 04/20/2020 2:06:14 AM PDT by knighthawk

Doctors treating coronavirus patients have reported cases of unusual skin issues that they said resembles frostbite.

“I looked down, I was getting in the shower, I was like, ‘Oh my gosh, my toe is turning blue,” she said. “I felt like I had really bad blisters on it.”

Dr. Esther Freeman, a dermatologist at Massachusetts General Hospital, told NBC’s “Today” that “COVID toes” may be linked to the virus. She said “purple lesions” could suddenly appear either on your feet or hands. She said the theory should be tested, because the so-called “COVID toes” may appear with or without other symptoms.

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KEYWORDS: coronavirus; covid; frostbite; toes
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1 posted on 04/20/2020 2:06:14 AM PDT by knighthawk
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To: knighthawk

Maybe from lack of oxygen


2 posted on 04/20/2020 2:13:11 AM PDT by BillyCuccio (MAGA)
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To: BillyCuccio
Maybe from lack of oxygen

Excellent thought.

Since the COVID=19 virus attacks red blood cells those dying cells may end up becoming bunched up in surface capillaries in the extremities.

In most cases I have been reading about the dying blood cells pool in the lungs. But why not elsewhere as well.

3 posted on 04/20/2020 2:21:39 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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To: knighthawk

Since cv inhibits the red blood cell from carrying or delivering oxygen it would be expected to see it in areas that traditionally have poor circulation like tips of fingers and toes. This is the same as you see with vascular damage from uncontrolled diabetes.

I would add that if a person exhibited the symptoms from cv, they might want to check a1c levels and general blood sugar levels. I have known quite a few people who discovered they were diabetic when their blood sugar got so high that they were experiencing diabetic keto acidosis symptoms. That didn’t happen overnight. By then you may well have significant vascular damage.


4 posted on 04/20/2020 2:57:10 AM PDT by Clay Moore (Mega prayers, Rush)
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To: Pontiac
Wouldn't the mechanism be more like hypothermia where it's not so much dead cells bunching up in extremities but the brain pulling the blood away from extremities and sending it where it's more important?

(Not an expert, not a doc - that's just want first occurred to me)

5 posted on 04/20/2020 2:57:59 AM PDT by tinyowl
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To: knighthawk

5G issue?


6 posted on 04/20/2020 3:03:17 AM PDT by Whatever Works
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To: knighthawk

L8r


7 posted on 04/20/2020 3:32:24 AM PDT by griswold3 (Democratic Socialism is Slavery by Mob Rule)
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To: griswold3

Pretty well known thromboembolic sign well understood by most first year med students. No mystery.


8 posted on 04/20/2020 3:39:27 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: wastoute

This is what you get when a bunch of presstitutes try and play doctor.


9 posted on 04/20/2020 4:06:52 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

There’s so many amateurs playing doctor the profession has been set back decades. It may take another century to get back to where we were 40 years ago. Who knows? Maybe that’s a good thing.


10 posted on 04/20/2020 4:09:13 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: knighthawk

I saw Covid Toes open up for Tiny Fauci at Winterland in 1973.


11 posted on 04/20/2020 4:14:28 AM PDT by PlateOfShrimp (c)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

People may get a chance to re-discover why certain things just aren’t done. We’ve already “accepted” several the detriment of which has yet to fully impact.


12 posted on 04/20/2020 4:24:17 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Just one little thing, trivial really: My Allergy/Immunologist is an old classmate. I never mind sitting for 30 minutes, i understand why, the risk is small but occasionally she will pop out and talk while I am waiting.

She can no longer ask people to wait in the waiting room for 30 minutes. Now she is “allowing” them to wait in their cars in the parking lot. She said, “I don’t know how we are ever going to get that genie back in the bottle.” Meaning people will be even less willing to wait 30 minutes. Iv’e seen a young woman almost die from not waiting thirty minutes after a PCN shot for Syphilis. Fortunately she hadn’t gotten behind the wheel and driven off yet.

So there are a million little things that took decades to get people to accept and now they feel they “Know more than the damn doctors.” Good for them. They may get to pay the consequences of such folly but the genie’s definitely out fo the bottle. It took a century to tame last time.


13 posted on 04/20/2020 4:31:15 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

...and if you don’t believe me I can point you to some 20 screen names I can easily identify after a month. (Is yours one?). Yes it is. It’s Okay.


14 posted on 04/20/2020 4:32:32 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: knighthawk

This can’t be good for gonads.


15 posted on 04/20/2020 4:35:46 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Follow your Inner Trump)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

One of the things that gives me real pause is Neonatology. The Neonatal Nursery. What we have now is EXTREMELY sophisticated application fo VERY advanced technology to provide these 24 weekers nutrition, ventilators support, protection from infection, etc. and this field is so very different from routine ICU work and even very different from normal Pediatric ICU care. The guys that do this live in their own little world and rarely interact with outsiders. After all my experience and just ONE MONTH of “being there, in the NICU every day” ALMOST got me to where I felt I might be able to do it and not cause too much carnage trying to “pick up the ball”.

This kind of knowledge, that we take for granted is VERY perishable and would take decades to recreate. And there are maybe one or two at any given hospital. So one outcome of all this is going to be a predictable increase in Infant Mortality as the wreckage of our healthcare system has to be rebuilt. And all because ethical standards that have been recognized for decades are tossed into the fire. Because PPE is ESSENTIAL to the NICU.

Another thing that is going to suffer? Joint replacements. The reason we have joint replacement technology is 40 years ago they recognized that the infection rate made the procedure essentially “murder”. A bright Orthopod (it happens) realized there was “new technology” he could bring to the “table” and invented “The Laminar Flow Operating Room”. THIS is what made the entire industry possible. If we lose this capability there could be “no more joint replacements”.

Any service people are now accustomed to is at risk if we can no longer provide the infrastructure and professional staff to operate it. Which will survive and which won’t is still up in the air.


16 posted on 04/20/2020 5:20:17 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Clay Moore

I’ve read the bone marrow produces more blood cells to replace those whose heme has been destroyed.

High hemoglobin levels and ferritin levels are another sign of the virus.


17 posted on 04/20/2020 5:20:18 AM PDT by meatloaf
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To: knighthawk

https://www.webmd.com/first-aid/frostbite#1-1

One of the initial clinical observances of Covid-19 patients, if seen before any major “breathing”, or lung issues are seen, is that something is eating the oxygen level. Yes, that is what the Wuhan Virus does - unbounds iron, and with it oxygen, in the hemoglobin.

Cells are left without their oxygen being restored. Human cells cannot live forever if they don’t get their oxygen.

The body has a way of trying to protect itself under stresses that deny the body heat or oxygen - save the core. As that process goes on it is the extremities (hands & feet) that get short shrift as essential services - heart and lung tissues - get all the support they can.


18 posted on 04/20/2020 5:27:21 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: knighthawk

A good friends husband had a bad rash when he had the virus. He said it was like a respiratory infection but not as bad as some had.


19 posted on 04/20/2020 5:57:31 AM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: knighthawk
toe is turning blue

She got through med school without learning about hypoxia? Affirmative Action admission/graduation?

20 posted on 04/20/2020 6:28:04 AM PDT by PAR35
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