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Pakistan, China and Russia decide to conduct trade in local currencies skip dollars
Business Recorder ^ | March 17, 2020 | Ali Ahmed

Posted on 04/02/2020 7:02:49 AM PDT by NImerc

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To: NImerc
Pawkystawn, isn't that where Barry went for years at the CIA's behest after turning 21?
Pawkystawn, isn't that the country for whom Lanny Davis has been a registered agent?
Pawkystawn, isn't that the country that sheltered Ossama bin Laden?

China, isn't that the country of origin for 5 of the last 8 deadly viruses?

41 posted on 04/02/2020 8:59:02 AM PDT by rx (Truth will out!)
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To: NImerc

I wonder how much US aid is going to those countries? If anything it should now be ZERO.


42 posted on 04/02/2020 9:11:01 AM PDT by gdc61 (LOL not.)
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To: dp0622
. And when the worst case is true you get to say you were right.

It’s more like I am prepared for the worst, I don’t really take any pleasure in being right. It is a shame that many people in this country live day-to-day. This just allows the Libs to control the populations’ life.

43 posted on 04/02/2020 9:20:06 AM PDT by Lockbox
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To: NImerc
Bookmark.
44 posted on 04/02/2020 9:21:43 AM PDT by Chgogal (Wuhan Virus, Chinese Virus, Kung Fu Virus - Wuhan Chinese Kung Fu Virus aka CCP virus.)
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To: Hostage

Well said, and I agree.

They’ve tried this before, and using precious metals made sense, but apparently that fell out of use.

I believe Venezuela was also involved, then.


45 posted on 04/02/2020 9:23:02 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Wuli

the Fed will kill the dollar by creating trillions & trillions of them out of thin air.


46 posted on 04/02/2020 9:25:11 AM PDT by wny
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To: BradyLS

Because it was the easiest way to create a world wide pandemic is to use your own vast population.


47 posted on 04/02/2020 9:43:10 AM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: NImerc

USA counters all debt owed to China wiped off the books due to them infecting us with this virus. Then we Americans buy our own bonds and invest here.


48 posted on 04/02/2020 9:59:31 AM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: grey_whiskers; ecomcon; RushIsMyTeddyBear
China is Asshoe! (Gangam Mix) Parody

First time I've seen this clip. ROTFL!

49 posted on 04/02/2020 10:05:29 AM PDT by nutmeg (Mega prayers for Rush Limbaugh)
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To: NImerc

On the surface it does make sense, due to how expensive dollars are right now to buy from most any local currency.

Underlying, sure, China is playing a long geo-political game...

This situation does seem to have had some beneficial side effects from the PRC’s PoV — No more protestors out in HK, some severe economic damage to its main rival, and a huge increase in demand for stuff that is only made in China now.


50 posted on 04/02/2020 10:05:36 AM PDT by L,TOWM (An upraised middle finger is my virtue signal.)
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To: Hostage

Well stated and also a sign of how poor some of these countries are. With dollars being so costly now, even the BS local currency looks like a tempting enough deal to get a little better margin on some stuff sold to each other.


51 posted on 04/02/2020 10:09:05 AM PDT by L,TOWM (An upraised middle finger is my virtue signal.)
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To: nutmeg

Hahaha!


52 posted on 04/02/2020 10:12:07 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear ("Progressives" (elitist Communists) "Love you to death".)
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To: BradyLS
If Covid-19 really is a bio-weapon aimed at the United States, why would they release it among their own population first and not care about the consequences if it also reduced populations around the rest of the world?

Because (1) plausible deniability, they can either say it was accidentally released or it was released by the United States, (2) they have a substantial elderly and sick population that their shitty, corrupt economy cannot handle when the bills come due, and (3) they have cover to do a mass cleansing of dissidents.

China gets to kill their own financial burdens and opponents while poisoning the west.

53 posted on 04/02/2020 10:21:48 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Hostage
For example, Russia is not going to sell oil for Paki Rupees unless the Pakis have something of equal significance the Russians need to buy in return.

Did no one notice that this currency is to be backed by gold?

55 posted on 04/02/2020 10:28:01 AM PDT by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: itsahoot

Um sure, as in when the mood strikes them.

Hey, I gotta bridge in the Everglades to sell ya, interested?


56 posted on 04/02/2020 10:31:28 AM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: NImerc

i wonder though if they’ll benchmark their currencies’ relative worth against the dollar, or if they’ll use a complex matrix of direct relative valuations? i can see where the latter method could lead to a lot of disputes ...


57 posted on 04/02/2020 11:09:02 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: NImerc

I think this issue of China as the ascendant superpower is overblown. China is not in such great economic shape right now.

It is true that the US has made serious strategic errors regarding China, but the mitigation of those errors is dependent on corrective actions WE take, not them. We are not at their mercy - not yet.

We have a President who understands all this, and has been warning us about China for 35 years, and in just three years, has already taken profound steps to restructure our China policy. We need to reclaim our manufacturing base and regain our strategic self-sufficiency.

There are various theories regarding China having financial leverage over the US, due to their huge US debt position and US$ currency holdings, but it is by no means a given that they could somehow translate that “on-paper” advantage into a practical takeover of US sovereignty.

They have used those $ to buy a lot of US real estate and corporate stock, and they have built up a huge gold reserve while we have diminished ours.

But if push comes to shove with China, the only important realities will be military power and economic power - not the fiscal balance sheet.

We have time to bolster our strength in both areas if we can find the collective will to defeat our own deep state Globalist political movement - that is the real threat to the Republic - not China.


58 posted on 04/02/2020 11:23:58 AM PDT by enumerated
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To: NImerc

why other 5 of 8 not mentioned ?


59 posted on 04/02/2020 11:25:38 AM PDT by va22030
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To: Raymann
It was decreasing by $5 billion a month BEFORE the virus hit.

China exports $2.5 trillion annually (2018) and imports $2.1 trillion. $5 billion is not that big a deal in the short term.

On top of that, their dollar reserves are in even worse shape. When everyone is scrambling to buy bonds now, China is selling them like there is no tomorrow in exchange for dollars because no one wants yuan. They can’t do that for very long and soon enough their imports will start to suffer.

The U.S. debt to China is $1.07 trillion as of December 2019.  That's 16% of the $6.7 trillion in Treasury bills, notes, and bonds held by foreign countries. They can always sell T-bills to get dollars. T-bills are not that great of an investment now that the Fed has lowered interest rates to almost zero.

China holds reserves of foreign currency and gold of $3.236 trillion (31 December 2017 est.) Most of their imports involve energy (oil, gas, and coal) and agricultural products. The top five import partners are South Korea 9.7%, Japan 8.6%, US 7.3%, Germany 5%, and Australia 4.9% (2018).

A strong dollar will hurt imports, but the Chinese will use the weakness of the Yuan and the strength of the dollar to gain a competitive advantage. The current low cost of energy will also help their exports and imports. The Russian-Saudi deal today could change that.

60 posted on 04/02/2020 11:28:35 AM PDT by kabar
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