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Coronavirus death rate is lower than previously reported, study says, but it's still deadlier than seasonal flu
CNN ^ | 03/30/2020 | Arman Azad

Posted on 03/31/2020 7:06:12 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

How many people die after being infected with the novel coronavirus? Fewer than previously calculated, according to a study released Monday, but still more than die from the flu.

The research, published in the medical journal The Lancet Infectious Diseases, estimated that about 0.66% of those infected with the virus will die.

That coronavirus death rate, which is lower than earlier estimates, takes into account potentially milder cases that often go undiagnosed -- but it's still far higher than the 0.1% of people who are killed by the flu.

When undetected infections aren't taken into account, the Lancet study found that the coronavirus death rate was 1.38%, which is more consistent with earlier reports.

Early in March, for example, Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the US National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said that "if you just do the math, the math is about 2%."

But he emphasized that the number could go down, saying that "as a group it's going to depend completely on what the factor of asymptomatic cases are."

That's because death rates typically only consider reported coronavirus cases, which tend to be more severe, and thus brought to the attention of health care workers. Asymptomatic cases -- or mild cases -- may not always be counted.

In this study, researchers tried to estimate the true "infection fatality rate." In other words, out of everybody infected -- not just those sick enough to get tested -- how many people will die?

To find out, researchers looked at how widespread infections were among people repatriated to their home countries on flights from Wuhan, China.

According to the study, these people received PCR tests -- a test that would be able to identify how many travelers were shedding the virus, even if they didn't show symptoms.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


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To: SeekAndFind

Communist News Network.

Let’s see how it compares with H1N1.
An actual pandemic.

It doesn’t, now does it.


21 posted on 03/31/2020 7:20:51 AM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: 3boysdad

The post above you did exactly that.

Some of our fearpers should be writing for evidence based, peer reviewed journals like The Lancet.

That’s how brilliant they are.


22 posted on 03/31/2020 7:21:31 AM PDT by BluegrassCardinal
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To: SeekAndFind

Many places are not testing anybody who shows up with mild symptoms. Very, very common here in NC. They’re just told to go home and isolate.

The bean counters have no idea how widespread this thing is right now. That number would drastically lower the rate of death.


23 posted on 03/31/2020 7:22:27 AM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: DannyTN

That’s meaningless without an accurate case figure, and no one has such a figure.


24 posted on 03/31/2020 7:23:39 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Epstein pulled a Carradine, the bozo.)
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To: tennmountainman

I saw that the death rate from the “usual” flu is lower this year due to the precautions being taken over CV.

Silver lining I guess.


25 posted on 03/31/2020 7:25:27 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Epstein pulled a Carradine, the bozo.)
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To: MrEdd

RE: Let’s see how it compares with H1N1.
An actual pandemic.

Well H1N1 was horrible and millions of people were infected — 1% to 3% of the world’s population were infected. Hundreds of thousands died.

But for some reason then, NOBODY I knew was infected then, and nobody I knew died.

Now with Covid-19, it is getting personal. Friends are sick and some have died.


26 posted on 03/31/2020 7:25:33 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: dgbrown

The media and the swamp should be the next to be unemployed.


27 posted on 03/31/2020 7:27:47 AM PDT by EdnaMode
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To: nhwingut
"US death rate will be very similar to the flu. "

From Article: " 0.1% of people who are killed by the flu. When undetected infections aren't taken into account, the Lancet study found that the coronavirus death rate was 1.38%, which is more consistent with earlier reports."

With President Trumps actions (closing the border, pushing social distancing, educating the public) and if the American public takes this serious, the death rate could be very similar to the flu.

I think it will be anywhere between 0.2% to 0.7% death rate, it all depends on the Americans. It could be as high as 1.5% if the people keep throwing politics into it.

It is up to Americans to how successful President Trump team will be to keep this similar to the flu.
28 posted on 03/31/2020 7:27:47 AM PDT by DEPcom
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To: SaxxonWoods

Death rate, from Worldometer CV site:

We don’t know how many were infected (”When you look at how many people have died, you need to look at how many people where infected, and right now we don’t know that number. So it is early to put a percentage on that.”[1][2]).
The only number currently known is how many people have died out of those who have been reported to the WHO.
It is therefore very early to make any conclusive statements about what the overall mortality rate will be for the novel coronavirus, according to the World Health Organization


29 posted on 03/31/2020 7:28:47 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Epstein pulled a Carradine, the bozo.)
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To: DannyTN
As of yesterday in PA 10% of those tested were positive.

Only ill with flu like symptoms tested, generally.

10% of those are hospitalized and 10% of those die.

30 posted on 03/31/2020 7:29:31 AM PDT by Eagles6
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To: SeekAndFind

The rate should be lower now that social distancing is in effect, plus we have a better idea of how to manage severe cases.


31 posted on 03/31/2020 7:31:23 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: SeekAndFind
Ruan, who was not involved with the research, also noted that the coronavirus fatality rate is low for younger people. But he stressed that "it is very clear that any suggestion of COVID-19 being just like influenza is false," with coronavirus remaining far deadlier than the seasonal flu.

Duh. We have a vaccine for the seasonal flu. Apples to oranges.

Based on this snapshot in time on 3/30 we have 22,303 hospitalized and 2,939 deaths due to the Wuhan virus.

During the 2017/18 flu season, we had 810,000 hospitalized and 61,000 deaths. Long way to go to approach these kinds of numbers for the Wuhan virus.

32 posted on 03/31/2020 7:31:40 AM PDT by kabar
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To: SeekAndFind

Anecdotally reverse.
How old were you and your friends?

Unlike H1N1, this is pretty only killing people with underlying issues. Diabetics, cancer patients, folks with dicky hearts or extreme age...and only those people should have been quarantined.

H1N1 was killing kids and younger adults. The difference should have been noted and factored into policy decisions but it wasn’t.


33 posted on 03/31/2020 7:32:51 AM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: tennmountainman

Was thinking the same thing. It would not surprise me in the least if they are lumping all flu related deaths in one big basket of deplorables. Got keep the sheeple in line.


34 posted on 03/31/2020 7:34:57 AM PDT by Liberal Anti Venom (In a free society, the last refuge of a moron is tyranny. ~Jeremy Egerer~)
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To: SeekAndFind

A headline that states the truth, coming from CNN?

Satan just put on his parka.


35 posted on 03/31/2020 7:35:17 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: MrEdd

Wonder how it is affecting gays with compromised immune systems?


36 posted on 03/31/2020 7:37:59 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...siameserescue.org)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

“Maybe, unsequestering to come sooner, rather than originally mandated?”

Nope not a chance. Politics won’t allow it. Trump is in a vice. He has to wait until most want it. That will take the full month...at least. If Dr Fraud and Barbara go on another media blitz with more doom like they did a few days ago it could go longer.


37 posted on 03/31/2020 7:39:40 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: PeteB570

Just heard Jersey Gov Murphy explain that his state ONLY tests symptomatics. And 38% of those test positive.


38 posted on 03/31/2020 7:42:57 AM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: DannyTN

Mortality rate based on number sick not population. It’s a created statistic. It’s not wrong. It’s just a half truth.


39 posted on 03/31/2020 7:43:15 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: SeekAndFind

Seasonal Flu kills 20 -60k, this will be closer to 60-100.


40 posted on 03/31/2020 7:44:10 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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