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I think NY got seeded heavily by Italy.

Would have expected West coast to get seeded by China. But between Trump’s China travel ban and Asian countries taking it seriously, we weren’t riddled with seeds.

It’s true here in Washington state and in California Trump’s travel ban on Chinese nationals held up.

He tried to ban the Iranians flying into New York but some judge overturned that band so Iran kept flying in.

no- i live in NY and my in laws are italian immigrants. Most who travel between the two countries for pleasure purposes do so in the summer- not the winter. Italians are staying in place here for Thanksgiving and Christmas.

1) NYC is much more condensed than SF or LA
2) you have lots more travelers from lots of other countries
3) NYC its a craphole
4) we had these issues recently, when Hasdics who did not want to vaccinate their kids and measles broke out...not that you can vaccinate from the chinese flu- but its the same type of mentality. There are also issues with whooping cough and TB in schools due to illegals.

“I think NY got seeded heavily by Italy.”

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Maybe, but there’s this from Feb 09 =>

Commissioner Oxiris Barbot
@NYCHealthCommr

Today our city is celebrating the #LunarNewYear parade in Chinatown, a beautiful cultural tradition with a rich history in our city. I want to remind everyone to enjoy the parade and not change any plans due to misinformation spreading about #coronavirus.

A Guide to Lunar New Year in NYC
Where to celebrate the holiday.
nycgo.com

9:10 AM · Feb 9, 2020·Hootsuite Inc.

https://twitter.com/NYCHealthCommr/status/1226508570646269954

NYC has a huge Chinese population who live in densely populated areas, many of whom are 1st and 2nd generation, who travel to mainland China on a regular basis. Yes, we have a lot of ethnic Italians, and while I’m sure that US tourists returning from Italy may have infected people in NY, I’m willing bet that the primary source is China: Between legal and illegal residents, students, business travelers, tourists, etc., there are a lot of F’ing Chinese people in the NYC area, which is by far the most densely populated metropolis in the Country. Yes, California has twice the population as NYC, but its major cities are significantly less populated and not nearly as dense.

In addition, while Los Angeles, San Francisco, Seattle, Atlanta, and other large cities have international airports, NYC has two major international airports, and is obviously a major port of entry for everyplace in the world, including lots of Chinese.

Also, California’s coastal climate is a lot warmer and temperate than NYC this time of the year, and in general. viruses prefer cooler climates.

think NY got seeded heavily by Italy.

BINGO!!! And my cousin was in Italy in September. Got as far north as Florence. Was astonished by the overwhelming number of Chinese tourists and by their failure to recognize your personal space.

Well Italy is a lot worse than China, for reasons that are not obvious.

Western Europe, especially Spain, is following right behind Italy. And so is New York.

Here is what actually happened:

1. Trump stops in-bound travel from China

2. Chinese tourist switch to Italy, Spain.

3. Covid-19 grows in Europe with free travel in Euro countries.

4. Europeans bring the virus to New York.

5. With the high density of population in NY city, the virus grows fast.