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Trump says coronavirus quarantine on New York, New Jersey, Connecticut not necessary, CDC to issue 'travel advisory'
Fox News ^ | 3/28/20 | Adam Shaw

Posted on 03/28/2020 6:04:22 PM PDT by conservative98

President Trump on Saturday night said the administration would not be issuing a quarantine on New York, parts of New Jersey and some of Connecticut as part of the efforts to curb the spread of the coronavirus.

"A quarantine will not be necessary," he tweeted, noting that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) would issue a "travel advisory" later in the evening.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Connecticut; US: New Jersey; US: New York
KEYWORDS: bigdon; cuomo; trump
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To: ConservativeMind
>>> which 300,000 - 600,000 die from a season?

300K - 600K in a season die from the flu? SNORT!

Wow - that's rich! Congrats - you win the prize.

41 posted on 03/28/2020 8:36:32 PM PDT by NELSON111 (Congress: The Ralph Wolf and Sam Sheepdog s<how. Theater for sheep. My politics determines my "hero")
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To: ConservativeMind

Right now this disease is 17 times more deadly than the flu in the US. Tell me when hospitals were this overwhelmed by the seasonal flu.


42 posted on 03/28/2020 8:43:12 PM PDT by nbenyo
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To: conservative98

IMHO, Cuomo is the kind of Italian who wreaks of Mafia.

I have been aware of his type all my life, trying to represent the good side of Italy. The art, the style, the humor, the class that exits without the rough and tumble world of the more notorious Mafioso.

We, the others of Italian descent, regard the Godfather types as innovative, efficient, interesting ...just consider the popularity of the Godfather series...but a little twisted in their thinking.

As the brave gladiators claimed ...I am Spartacus...

WE on the other hand do NOT claim...We are Mafia.


43 posted on 03/28/2020 9:19:48 PM PDT by Maris Crane
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To: conservative98

Andrew said locking people in one place is war, as they tell citizens to stay in their homes and arrest them if they come out after curfew in NJ, and shut down all business.

Yes, it is war, Andy Cuomo.


44 posted on 03/28/2020 9:21:28 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: nbenyo

Its not more deadly than the flu. Its more contagious because we are all not immune. So its spreads like wild fire.

Cuomo is infecting all states, because he can. Its up to the states to put a condom on, and keep cuomo out. Cuomo is like syphilus, he spreads because he can. He cant help it.


45 posted on 03/28/2020 9:38:03 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: nbenyo
The public doesn’t need to see its leaders feuding....

There is only one leader involved. Fredo’s brother is a pathetic poseur.

46 posted on 03/28/2020 9:46:15 PM PDT by Natty Bumppo@frontier.net (We are the dangerous ones, who stand between all we love and a more dangerous world.)
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To: nbenyo
He has no choice. If I was Trump, I would do the same thing because if this does get out of control, and I acknowledge it can, he will be blamed for every death and not knowing what to do. If this passes with minimal loss of life, he can take credit for that.

But as you know, the media and the dems will try to pin anything that goes wrong on Trump and they are trying their hardest and there will always be those that will agree.

But you have to understand, the models they used to predict the fatalities and percent were highly flawed. That has already been admitted. The model used to predict fatalities estimated 500,000 deaths in the UK and 2.2 million in the US. Now he tells us, he (the modeler) thinks it will be 20,000 max in the UK and probably not even near that number. Now he tells us...sorry about that.

Trump's presidency will be judged on this one thing alone. Anything that happened before these weeks are irrelevant as far as November goes. This is the whole ball game for Trump and so I fully understand the politics of this. It's a shame one has to look at this event politically, but that is where we are as a nation now. That is why Trump is front and center constantly, which is smart.

There are a ton of shallow people out there and many will look at their quarterly 401K statements in April and blame Trump. While their cash flow is unaffected, people still "feel" flush with affluency or feel less well off and, of course, the president gets the credit or the blame. Unbelievably, I know a few like that.

47 posted on 03/28/2020 10:31:02 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: nbenyo
Seriously? You believe that? I can't believe you have fallen for this hype.

Here is why you think the fatality rate is so high. Because testing has only begun and once more testing is done and more people recover, the fatality rate is going way down.

I was just listening to a public health official today and he said he was happy with the results so far and the fatality rate is going to go way down. He predicted it would be in the 0.05 to 0.07 range - less than the flu at 0.10

I mean, talk about gullible and buying the panic stories of the MSM.

If you take Italy, as an example, the average age of those who have died are 81 years old. Italy is the second oldest country on earth next to Japan, which is why their death rate is higher. The article I read said that many of those who died in Italy were sickly to begin with. I don't want to appear to be insensitive, but these are just facts and not hype.

My dad is 91 but in very good health and lives independently at his house, but with an abundance of caution, I'm not going to visit him, just in case. But I think he will be fine. As tragic as it is, the seasonal flu always takes some young and very healthy people, too. It happens every year and you never know why some people succumb and others don't.

So the seasonal flu deaths this year are estimated at up to 80,000 this year and this virus won't come close to that number.

It appears the media has you scared, but don't let them do that to you, you are better than that.

48 posted on 03/28/2020 10:46:42 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: Dave W

Yes I believe the facts.

The mortality rate has risen to 1.8% as of today. In spite of the optimists predicting the mortality rate would drop as more are tested, the opposite is happening. Earlier this week the mortality was below 1.4%. The flu mortality is 0.1%.


49 posted on 03/29/2020 12:00:23 AM PDT by nbenyo
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To: nbenyo

Sigh. As time goes on, the fatality rate will go down. It is always highest in the first part of the curve. The testing on a large scale started just 5 days ago! Good grief.


50 posted on 03/29/2020 12:10:52 AM PDT by Dave W
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To: Dave W

I’ll believe it when I see data that supports it. This is a new virus. Predictions are worthless.


51 posted on 03/29/2020 12:19:05 AM PDT by nbenyo
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To: nbenyo

You have it exactly backwards: The flu, so far this year, accounts for about 20 times the number of deaths as does the Coronavirus.

Early worst case scenario predictions were based on exponential increases that are being proven less likely with each passing day.

People are afraid to let their guard down and that is understandable. Maybe the timing of the USA “curve” is farther behind Italy’s curve than we thought.

But at some point in the next week or two, if the spread of this virus doesn’t explode - there will be drastic downward revisions


52 posted on 03/29/2020 1:27:25 AM PDT by enumerated
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To: nbenyo

You are like someone who watches election results coming in 5 minutesvaftervthe polls close and getsvhysterical because his candidate is losing by 30%.....with .oo1% of the vote counted.

This thing is all but over and all you need do is look at the MOUNTAINS of so called anecdotal evidence to see what is happening.

Most all projections by “experts” have been walked back or simply not panned out andvevidence of success with various treatments are all overvthevplace.

It was actotal scam!!


53 posted on 03/29/2020 1:51:10 AM PDT by billyboy15
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To: enumerated

Apples and oranges.
The mortality rate for coronavirus is 18 times that of the flu. That’s a fact.
Flu season is winding down. Coronavirus is revving up.


54 posted on 03/29/2020 2:58:53 AM PDT by nbenyo
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To: billyboy15

It’s just starting up. Daily deaths are doubling every 2-3 days. We don’t know when it will flatten.
It looked like Italy was flattening for a few days, but it didn’t hold.


55 posted on 03/29/2020 3:02:41 AM PDT by nbenyo
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To: lepton

Are all those deaths proven to have Covid-19 as the primary cause? Or are they the numbers of all deaths, including those completely unrelated to Covid-19, published to incite fear?

You have no idea, and you shouldn’t be posting unverified propaganda.


56 posted on 03/29/2020 5:14:58 AM PDT by NorthWoody (A vote is like a rifle: its usefulness depends upon the character of the user. - Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: Dave W

I think Trump’s action was primarily a bluff, since there are many leftists who are calling for a total lock-down of the entire country. Well, threaten to make it real...particularly in Dem controlled areas - And suddenly they’re changing their tune.

I recall that Trump was initially in favor of just taking precautionary measures, looking for a treatment and vaccine, and going on with life. Pity he didn’t stick with that approach, but then we had people like Cuomo going out, emoting and saying he didn’t want his mother to die...


57 posted on 03/29/2020 6:32:29 AM PDT by livius
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To: nbenyo

Here are some facts:

The actual mortality rate of Covid-19 is UNKNOWN, because the actual number of infections is unknown.

The reported mortality rate of Covid-19 is grossly OVERSTATED, because the denominator only includes confirmed cases, which represent only a small fraction of actual cases. For every one case that’s been confirmed, there may be hundreds or even thousands, who have been infected, but whose symptoms are either nonexistent, or are indistinguishable from allergies, a cold or the flu.

Basing the mortality rate of Covid-19 on confirmed positives, is like basing the mortality rate of the common cold on “confirmed colds” - hardly anyone goes to the doctor for a common cold!

This scary “mortality rate” you alarmists are touting is being revised downward as we speak.


58 posted on 03/29/2020 7:17:24 AM PDT by enumerated
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To: nbenyo

Cuomo is NOT a leader...He is a liberal puppet...


59 posted on 03/29/2020 8:00:09 AM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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To: conservative98
Post 9/11... we are all New Yorkers

Post WuFlu... Yankee, go home!

60 posted on 03/29/2020 8:42:56 AM PDT by Cooter (Radicals always try to force crises because in a crisis, everyone must choose sides. - J. Goldberg)
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