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Trump: “Throw Massie out of the Republican Party,” as House to pass coronavirus relief — and pass around the virus, too?
Hot Air ^ | 3/27/2002 | Ed Morissey

Posted on 03/27/2020 8:54:40 AM PDT by yardboyd

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To: yardboyd

[[The big question is what else they may pass around on the way back to hold a voice vote.]]

For crying out loud- they don’t have protective coveralls, or hazmat suits with personal air packs etc they can use for important votes? There are ways to do this and keep everyone safe if they are so worried about it—


41 posted on 03/27/2020 10:07:56 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: yardboyd
...it’s also on Nancy Pelosi and Mitch McConnell. At the very beginning of the outbreak in the US, they both had opportunities to set up a protocol for remote voting to avoid this very scenario.

Maybe the problem isn't entirely on Massie or a failure to approve remote voting.

Maybe the core problem is that Congress takes too many recesses/adjournments, and that's the root cause for all of these other so-called fixes?

-PJ

42 posted on 03/27/2020 10:14:54 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Freedom of the press is the People's right to publish, not CNN's right to the 1st question.)
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To: Bob434

For Congress to be prepared for this implies that they are a proactive organization. They are not. They are reactive.


43 posted on 03/27/2020 10:16:44 AM PDT by Bitman
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To: Pox
-- It's going to pass regardless of how the vote is taken. --

Would you consider it passed if a quorum was not present?

House rules have provisions for catastrophic quorum failure. Those provisions attach in times of catastrophe, like when members can't get to the House. It is too much to ask that they follow the rules respecting establishing a quorum? Or is quorum an antiquated requirement?

44 posted on 03/27/2020 10:21:19 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Since the two items and circumstances are in no way comparable, I see no point in coming to the conclusion you’ve posted.


45 posted on 03/27/2020 10:25:53 AM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Bitman
-- For Congress to be prepared for this implies that they are a proactive organization. --

RULE XX
VOTING AND QUORUM CALLS

5.(c)(1) If the House should be without a quorum due to catastrophic circumstances, then--

The House just deemed a quorum present. Who knows how many were there. I doubt it was half the members.

46 posted on 03/27/2020 10:27:14 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

Boy he is STEAMED at Massie I am more Steamed at Mittens WHY is Massie doing this anyone know???


47 posted on 03/27/2020 10:28:28 AM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: yardboyd

uh. are we in the 21st Century or not?

this could easily be done remote.

but poor Rep. Massie, you better watch your back from now on. DC hates a doctrinare conservative with the courage of his/her constitutional convictions (if that’s what you are) getting in the way when they’re at the hog trough.


48 posted on 03/27/2020 10:30:06 AM PDT by dadfly
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

Massie thinks a quorum is required to do business. He is mistaken. The quorum requirement in the constitution is not binding. Once the chair in the House deems a quorum present, the members present, no matter if it a quarter of the members, can conduct business.


49 posted on 03/27/2020 10:30:39 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: nwrep

It is not serious legislation if it includes $25 million for Kennedy Center.


50 posted on 03/27/2020 10:34:14 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: yardboyd

God bless Massie. This bill is a crap sandwich.

Shame on Trump for defending the millions of our dollars to the Kennedy Center.

KILL THIS BILL.


51 posted on 03/27/2020 10:37:04 AM PDT by Baldwin77 (They hated Reagan too ! TRUMP TOUGH - AMERICA STRONG)
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To: Political Junkie Too

This whole mess is starting to smell like a massive demonrat plot to take down Trump. Remember back in 2008 when little Johnnie McCain had to leave his campaign and run back to DC to solve the urgent finance crisis and how smooth Obama was continuing his campaign? This current crisis is just too convenient for the demonrats to happen during an election year.

Where was all this urgent hand wringing and crying last winter when, according to the CDC, over 80,000 Americans died from the flu. Did we panic then? I’ll bet most don’t remember it.

Since most of the CDC and the NIH are made up of liberals it wouldn’t surprise me in the least to find that they are blowing this way out of proportion to hurt President Trump.

Finally, it was reported this morning that every day in this country over 3,000 people are killed in vehicle accidents. OMG, we better close the Interstate highways and outlaw cars.


52 posted on 03/27/2020 10:37:27 AM PDT by Colo9250
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To: Cboldt
I'm not a lawyer surviving on the substance/definition of such legalities, so my opinion on that is less than useless.

Massie did not need to make a big stink over this. What purpose does it serve? If you have an answer to that which satisfies the millions who are waiting on a relief check, consider what their “I give a shit” level is concerning congressional decorum.

As I stated previously, there is a place and time for being stubborn in this fashion. This just isn't the time.

Exactly like this is not the place and time for Pelosi to attempt to put her bullshit agenda front and center over this “crisis”.

53 posted on 03/27/2020 10:43:48 AM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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Quorum is not a tough legal or procedural technicality, so you dont get the exuse "I'm not a lawyer surviving on the substance/definition of such legalities, so my opinion on that is less than useless."

Do you find that making a decision without a quorum prsent is okay? I think your answer is yes.

Which, to me, puts you in the situational rules camp. Don't express an opinion based on "rule of law" and expect me to think that you mean it.

Which, by the way, I think "rule of law" is a joke too, so I never use that. There is no such thing as rule of law. It's all about who has the power.

54 posted on 03/27/2020 10:49:45 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt
Just because you proclaim it so does not grant you the authority to override my disclaimer.

You can answer for me all day long, but the ultimate answer in between my ears is “ I Don't Give A Shit One Way Or The Other “ is it concerns Massie's pointless action. I suppose my largest concern is over the fact that it makes the anti-dems "look bad" when it isn't necessary and is in fact counterproductive.

So, the above remains the same for the “rule of law”, which circles back to my point about legalese and my disdain for such, regardless of how you want to characterize it.

Many times I do care and will follow along with what is transpiring and attempt to get to the bottom of the legalities and technicalities of whatever the issue is at hand, but that is if I have plenty of available leisure time and nothing better at the moment to engage my curiosity.

55 posted on 03/27/2020 11:09:29 AM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: mdmathis6

I concur, vote and be counted. The rep from Kentucky is standing on firm constitutional rock. The constitution should not be voided or ignored for expediency. Congress critters should be in DC, “doing the work of the people.”


56 posted on 03/27/2020 11:10:01 AM PDT by Tudorfly (All things are possible within the will of God.)
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To: ArtDodger

Good one, Mr. Foster!!!
For the record, I am proud of Rep. Massie.


57 posted on 03/27/2020 11:10:07 AM PDT by alstewartfan (The shore was washed away.They say you hear church bells still as they toll beneath the waves. Al S)
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To: yardboyd

I’m not upset with Massie. And Trump’s comments are a cya when the media comes after him because Massie is a GOP.

All good.


58 posted on 03/27/2020 11:12:21 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro

Amazing how few really believe in the Constitution.

Lincoln didn’t and neither did 0bama.


59 posted on 03/27/2020 11:15:25 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: Pox
-- Just because you proclaim it so does not grant you the authority to override my disclaimer. --

I'm not overriding it. I'm calling out as not believeable, your claim that you don't know what quorum is. Maybe you don't.

And whether it's accurate or not, I find you to be unprincipled. You don't get to override what's between my ears.

60 posted on 03/27/2020 11:17:20 AM PDT by Cboldt
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