Posted on 03/27/2020 8:54:40 AM PDT by yardboyd
[[The big question is what else they may pass around on the way back to hold a voice vote.]]
For crying out loud- they don’t have protective coveralls, or hazmat suits with personal air packs etc they can use for important votes? There are ways to do this and keep everyone safe if they are so worried about it—
Maybe the problem isn't entirely on Massie or a failure to approve remote voting.
Maybe the core problem is that Congress takes too many recesses/adjournments, and that's the root cause for all of these other so-called fixes?
-PJ
For Congress to be prepared for this implies that they are a proactive organization. They are not. They are reactive.
Would you consider it passed if a quorum was not present?
House rules have provisions for catastrophic quorum failure. Those provisions attach in times of catastrophe, like when members can't get to the House. It is too much to ask that they follow the rules respecting establishing a quorum? Or is quorum an antiquated requirement?
Since the two items and circumstances are in no way comparable, I see no point in coming to the conclusion you’ve posted.
RULE XX
VOTING AND QUORUM CALLS5.(c)(1) If the House should be without a quorum due to catastrophic circumstances, then--
The House just deemed a quorum present. Who knows how many were there. I doubt it was half the members.
Boy he is STEAMED at Massie I am more Steamed at Mittens WHY is Massie doing this anyone know???
uh. are we in the 21st Century or not?
this could easily be done remote.
but poor Rep. Massie, you better watch your back from now on. DC hates a doctrinare conservative with the courage of his/her constitutional convictions (if that’s what you are) getting in the way when they’re at the hog trough.
Massie thinks a quorum is required to do business. He is mistaken. The quorum requirement in the constitution is not binding. Once the chair in the House deems a quorum present, the members present, no matter if it a quarter of the members, can conduct business.
It is not serious legislation if it includes $25 million for Kennedy Center.
God bless Massie. This bill is a crap sandwich.
Shame on Trump for defending the millions of our dollars to the Kennedy Center.
KILL THIS BILL.
This whole mess is starting to smell like a massive demonrat plot to take down Trump. Remember back in 2008 when little Johnnie McCain had to leave his campaign and run back to DC to solve the urgent finance crisis and how smooth Obama was continuing his campaign? This current crisis is just too convenient for the demonrats to happen during an election year.
Where was all this urgent hand wringing and crying last winter when, according to the CDC, over 80,000 Americans died from the flu. Did we panic then? I’ll bet most don’t remember it.
Since most of the CDC and the NIH are made up of liberals it wouldn’t surprise me in the least to find that they are blowing this way out of proportion to hurt President Trump.
Finally, it was reported this morning that every day in this country over 3,000 people are killed in vehicle accidents. OMG, we better close the Interstate highways and outlaw cars.
Massie did not need to make a big stink over this. What purpose does it serve? If you have an answer to that which satisfies the millions who are waiting on a relief check, consider what their “I give a shit” level is concerning congressional decorum.
As I stated previously, there is a place and time for being stubborn in this fashion. This just isn't the time.
Exactly like this is not the place and time for Pelosi to attempt to put her bullshit agenda front and center over this “crisis”.
Do you find that making a decision without a quorum prsent is okay? I think your answer is yes.
Which, to me, puts you in the situational rules camp. Don't express an opinion based on "rule of law" and expect me to think that you mean it.
Which, by the way, I think "rule of law" is a joke too, so I never use that. There is no such thing as rule of law. It's all about who has the power.
You can answer for me all day long, but the ultimate answer in between my ears is “ I Don't Give A Shit One Way Or The Other “ is it concerns Massie's pointless action. I suppose my largest concern is over the fact that it makes the anti-dems "look bad" when it isn't necessary and is in fact counterproductive.
So, the above remains the same for the “rule of law”, which circles back to my point about legalese and my disdain for such, regardless of how you want to characterize it.
Many times I do care and will follow along with what is transpiring and attempt to get to the bottom of the legalities and technicalities of whatever the issue is at hand, but that is if I have plenty of available leisure time and nothing better at the moment to engage my curiosity.
I concur, vote and be counted. The rep from Kentucky is standing on firm constitutional rock. The constitution should not be voided or ignored for expediency. Congress critters should be in DC, “doing the work of the people.”
Good one, Mr. Foster!!!
For the record, I am proud of Rep. Massie.
I’m not upset with Massie. And Trump’s comments are a cya when the media comes after him because Massie is a GOP.
All good.
Amazing how few really believe in the Constitution.
Lincoln didn’t and neither did 0bama.
I'm not overriding it. I'm calling out as not believeable, your claim that you don't know what quorum is. Maybe you don't.
And whether it's accurate or not, I find you to be unprincipled. You don't get to override what's between my ears.
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